China: More foreigners protest, aided by 2.0 tools
One (possibly) last protest post before we get back on topic around here; first is the pseudo-guerrilla Exodus 8:1 mission of Christian activist Eddie ‘iamgadfly’ Romero for human rights in China which has seem him paint murals on the walls of at least 2 rooms in upscale Beijing hotels and then go into hiding. He is still tweeting, however, and uploading videos to YouTube.
And today, a protest held by a group of American Free Tibet activists has been streamed live on Qik.com by intrepid citizen reporter @noneck; further footage is being uploaded as this is being posted:
Most recent tweet from @noneck (aka Noel Hidalgo) came less than an hour ago; the video he mentions appears to be this clip:
I'm qik'n an awesome video of a protest i saw in t sq. The frosting came from a cbc camera man who got his passport stolen by police
Lhadon Tethong from Students for a Free Tibet did something similar this time last year when she also went ‘underground’, hiding from Chinese authorities as she continued to livevlog her quest to get IOC president Jacques Rogge's attention.
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@Kennedy
Sorry about the “a-hole” thing. The “fenqing” in me got the better of me, even though I am well pass the “qing” part.
It is quite good to see that you are playing a much more active role in refereeing these comments. Seeing GVO turned in a road rage forum, like in some of the past threads (wink, wink), certainly isn’t conducive for any meaningful discussion.
And me being party to name calling and mud-flinging, well at least the name calling part, does no favors in advancing my arguments either.
Anyhow, JK, it is good to see that, at least, you are favoring quality over quantity. Thanks!
FEAR is what I saw in that video.
Last time I saw that fear was in the eyes of my family during a mock drill by the National Guard in my hometown. It was in a time called “the cold war!”
As for the man in Tiananmen Square, would it have been a more appropriate thing to do if he was standing in front of a tank. I hoped that some miracle would occur for the Chinese people. For once we could see you, again. We are watching, but nobody is moving. This was your chance. I’m so sorry you let it go by.
Peace,
Dena Liles
A strong faith and belief in something, a good thought that this “something” might bring true benefits to their people, will triger bravery acts.
See clearly the “something”, analyse thoroughly before decided to have bravery acts, for your own good and many many others..
My little Dena,
I am so sorry you miss the whole point of the games and opening ceremony. . . tsk tsk tsk
It’ll be better if they visit Tibet before protesting.
To Lame One:
Am I to suppose that I am speaking to an actual “fenqing”? You seem like you might be a western plant, not the real deal, rather the kind that is surmised to be doing a lot of damage on the internet by passing themselves off as “fenqing” in order to sabotage all the right-thinking and decent fenqing who are fed up and sick tired of being fed up and sick and tired, and don’t like being criticized by “sanctimonious ##%#” like myself who point out that their poor critical thinking skills are the result of growing up in a culture and society that doesn’t instill or encourage critical thinking skills, not to mention an education system purposely designed to turn their minds to pancake batter. But your true identity is beside the point.
I apologize to you, Lame One, for having not taken the proper amount of time to analyze why the fenqing exist in the first place.
The consensus is that they exist because they are VERY INSECURE about their Chinese identity, and that their insecurity is a reflection of the very insecurity that their Pig Authorities, who have self-servingly egged them on like Orwellian Dogs, feel in the face of a restive population that engages, by the Party’s own admission, in political demonstrations 80,000 times a year (or once every five seconds), of whom 20% exist at or below international poverty levels of $1 per diem (but not including those who exist on $2 per diem in the world’s most overpopulated country, which would probably double the figure, at least), and that they do so because they live in a land fraught with corruption, labor and human rights abuses, and environmental deterioration that will probably lead to a state of ecological barbarism in a short time soon. The list of ills is really too long to mention, and all on scale that would turn just about any other countryman’s head around, 360. If I were Chinese, I think I’d feel deeply insecure, too, particularly if I were a fenqing.
Yet, the fenqing comprise that segment of the younger population that lives well above the economic figures previously mentioned, and who have nothing to believe in but what what the Party tells them to believe in, namely a China that is really “going somewhere”, despite the fact that it is really one enormous house of cards probably living on borrowed time. Further, the fenqing know the main reason that China has gotten as far as it has during their lifetime is as the result of western technology and methodology, and western capital that has built a huge amount of the factories that operate in China which have brought it out of the dark ages. And that bothers them. A lot. But, being human the fenqing need to believe in the goodness of themselves and their society. Human, all too human. Tsk.
However, to your complaint that I didn’t offer a solution, I correct you. I did. I recommended, Lame One, that China self-quarantine itself so that the foul vapors of its authoritarian groupthink don’t befoul the rest of the world, this and the noxious brown cloud overhanging China that now reaches to the Rocky Mtns on a bad day.
Look, I’m going to level with you, I’m even going to back down on my inflammatory rhetoric. We live in a very difficult and crazy world. Indeed, I have some very strong objections to China, but I also have probably some even stronger ones for my own country, America, which in the last 8 years has moved in an absolutely nightmarish direction under Bush. Recent indications show, however, that America is moving politically to the left, which is as positive a sign of life that America has shown in a long time, and that this shift appears to be one that is going to endure for a while as many new voters who have come of age under Bush recognize the enormity of his regime’s actions.
I’m going to make a deal with you. If America can begin to behave like a better global citizen, and I will admit, that’s a big if, then perhaps China can do something about its intrinsic ills, too. I don’t like the direction this world is going. Mother Earth just let out a loud moan this year, and we’d better listen. The soul of both of our countries is going to be strenuously tested in the coming times, and we’d both better be ready to make some major changes with how we operate as individuals, and as a society. The world is going to need a morally stronger America and China if it is going to survive. Take care, whoever and wherever you are.
http://www.chineseantfarm.blogspot.com
Chinese here. Where is your heroic 5-year old pastor still playing peekaboo?
The chinese were discussing about him all over the chinese language forums. He is known as a California community college teacher. And the identity is easily found the web. The hotel, however, is still trying to find the person responsible. Please, some one know Eddie Romero please tell him the overall bill is around $1,430 given the current exchange rate.
Yo Ant,
I am not the one you should make a deal with.
After all I AM a western plant anyway and not a real “fenqing”. That’s not to say that I am not insecure about my “Chinese” identity. Yeah, I am pretty insecure about people pushing their POV, especially on things related to moi, without any consideration for mine.
Yeah, I am truly LAME for hoping that people might just put aside the rhetorics and start communicating as human beings.
And I am even more so for thinking that our buddy, John Kennedy, might have turned a new leaf and begin to foster an environment for meaningful exchange, rather than one that encourage flame wars and mud flinging. Yeah, that was really really LAME of me.
Being so LAME and a western PLANT to boot, I am really not the appropriate person that you should be making a deal with.
If you want to make a deal, it should be with your own person. You maybe the only one that can really ensure that your good intentions don’t end up trampling others (ask if you’re not sure).
Just planting the seeds…
Or dare I hope to seed them grow?
Best
Someone pretty LAME, but not THE LAME ONE.
congratunations!
you may think you must be this year’s american idol,
and ,you did it.
so pathetic… you should thank the police dragging you to the police, or else, you may be beaten by the crowds.