China: More foreigners protest, aided by 2.0 tools
One (possibly) last protest post before we get back on topic around here; first is the pseudo-guerrilla Exodus 8:1 mission of Christian activist Eddie ‘iamgadfly’ Romero for human rights in China which has seem him paint murals on the walls of at least 2 rooms in upscale Beijing hotels and then go into hiding. He is still tweeting, however, and uploading videos to YouTube.
And today, a protest held by a group of American Free Tibet activists has been streamed live on Qik.com by intrepid citizen reporter @noneck; further footage is being uploaded as this is being posted:
Most recent tweet from @noneck (aka Noel Hidalgo) came less than an hour ago; the video he mentions appears to be this clip:
I'm qik'n an awesome video of a protest i saw in t sq. The frosting came from a cbc camera man who got his passport stolen by police
Lhadon Tethong from Students for a Free Tibet did something similar this time last year when she also went ‘underground’, hiding from Chinese authorities as she continued to livevlog her quest to get IOC president Jacques Rogge's attention.
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Why so many westerner are so confident about their knowledge of Tibet, do you really see tibetans are prisoned or tortured ? You Fucking idiots ,You’re simply your western media tools ,you’re fooled around by these media just for fun , but tibet is a serious matter to Chinese , We Chinese all know our own history ,it has nothing related to communist party , it’s 5000 years history of our own.
As far as I can I see the tibetans around me are more superior than Han race , they’re allowed to carry long knives to protect themselves for religious respect, and they use the knives to fight and slash Hans , its just legal for them to take knives , most tibetans are super rich ,cause Hans devote their money to buddha , they just steal the money and spent by themselves .
Dalai are popular in western , cause you’re ignorant ,tibet is part of china and not Dalai’s kingdom , you’re fighting for nothing , pathetic western idiots ,go to learn some history .
Notice how these things are always done in ENGLISH (or some other language) but not in Chinese — especially the guy in the second video.
That alone is an immediate indication that involvement of the Chinese people was never included or considered in their action plans.
I guess when you think about the general strategy of these groups, particularly the Free Toad Bed groups, which is to (1) bring light to their cause, (2) get the foreign governments to exert pressure on China, and (3) secure Tibetan independence, it makes perfect sense.
Don’t take my words for it, take a look at what Patrick French has to say about it. If you don’t know who he is, try googling.
http://tinyurl.com/58y2sq
http://tinyurl.com/36tffb
Dude, get a clue. Talk to us, instead of just pissing the us off and turn the people against your cause.
My English is not very good, so I’m not sure wheather I could made myself understood to you. I have read above words, I feel I have to say something to you!
I’m a common Chinese girl, and I live an ordinary life in BeiJing. I write these words just want to tell you how a Chinese girl see HR and Tibet!
I really can’t understand why so many foreign people think HR is very bad in China. Have you ever been to China? Have you seen how is the Chinese people living by your eyes not from the media?
I was born in a small city in Northeast China. My father is a bus driver, and my mother is a housewife,My familly is not very rich, but we live a happy life. After 1980, our life becomes better and better. If you have been to China in the80’s, you’ll feel the tremendous changes.
The generation of my age have fair chance of education, good medical treatment, and equal opportunity. We get what we want by our effort, and I think the society is fair to everyone. We live a happy life here, not only me ,but all the people around me. If you ask Chinese people if they think HR is a problem in China, I believe above 90% people will say no. HR problem is a ridiculous saying, most of the Chinese believe they live a happy life, but you foreign friends think it is serious, isn’t it ridiculous?
Please come to China!!! See a real China by your eyes, not through the media!
As for Tibet, I haven’t been to there ,but one of my friend’s brother runs a store there. He said the Han nationality people got very well with local people. The Tibet people’s life is happy and free. Foreign friends, if you want to say someting of Tibet , please read the history of Tibet, and come to Tibet, or you have no right to talk about it!
At last, I want to say, China is a peace-loving country, Chinese people have good emotion to all the people in the world. Don’t hurt our feeling. Welcome to China! See it by your onw eyes,no prejudice, no deliberate intentions.
Welcome to China!
All these “acts” dirtied the true moral of of true human right of man kind. I see them as just ugly political motives and are of very negatively meaningless. They are causing Disturbance to Peace.
China has to feed 1/5 population in this world, and which country has ever achieved this success to eliminate the poverty, and get people warm? Is it not also part of human rights? Now tell me!
What high-tech toys? You child ever get poison? And this investigation result has come out, hasn’t US government told you? All the responsibility is due to US buyers design. Please comment on something before you know it.
So far as China and Tibet, how much you know? How much understanding you know about this country and nation history? You only see people there rude shouting against China’s government, but have you ever visited there?
Friends, please go there, go Tibet, no one would stop you going, but you should abide by Chinese law in China, you should not disturb people’s peace life. If you have a good intention to travel China, I bet you’ll enjoy the life definately. I bet you’ll love the people there. I bet you’ll find it so different a world from what you get from medias.
On the contrary, people in China do not show so much enthusiasms in politics, people live in very good life and homony there.
Respect and mutual respect deserves the praises.
I want to say that the criticism of the western protesters in Beijing is very sensible. I concur with this consensus, finding many good points in the above comments.
But then things changed. The simple-minded fenqing showed up again. Continuously as I read their comments the thing that strikes me more than anything is the low level of intellection reflected in their writing. It’s not so much a matter of poor English skills as simply a manifestation of a very, very mediocre mind. And again the mantra, “you don’t understand China, you don’t understand China”, as if there were something unfathomable and arcane beyond the dark mystery of its ineptitude and wretchedness itself that no westerner could ever understand, or any other countrymen of this world outside of China for that matter. Didn’t they even notice that westerners were actually lending an apology to them for the behaivor of the protesters?
Just one word, Tibet, and the fenqing are off to the races! I’ve come to really wonder what the actual attachment is to Tibet for most of them given that they probably live hundreds if not several thousand kilometers from it, and have no relationship to the indigenous culture in any real way. Clearly, this is a reflection of Chinese groupthink. The Chinese have a collective soul that can apparently think in no other way.
Perhaps, however, the fenqing are right. It is impossible, ultimately, to understand the Chinese. They are like no other human souls on the planet. The rest of the world has some charm and wit, and provide good human company, from South America and the sub-continent to the Sahara. My idea of hell would be to be locked across a table from a Chinese guy for eternity, having to politely pretend you were enjoying his society .
Frankly, I wish China would politely self-quarantine itself again for several more hundred years, if only because they’re horrendously boring. Got it, fenqinq?
And when this little party your bosses were allowed to throw is over, do the rest of the world a favor: make yourselves scarce.
Just planting seeds…
Hey Ant,
Your above comment above clearly shown certain minimum level of intellection, once again it shown me and firmed my point of view towards those people who had commented like you
I think the reason they don’t bother involving Chinese people in human rights demos about Tibet is that practically no Chinese person is willing to even admit that there might be a human rights problem in Tibet. I mean, they are not even willing to consider it, not willing to even think about it. It is a very automatic reaction. At least, that has been my observation. Prove me wrong!
But maybe they should try anyway. Perhaps they will meet that rare person!
yo Ant,
Why don’t you just politely self-quarantine and make yourself scarce.
There is something truly repulsive about sanctimonious a-holes like you, who are infatuated with the smell of their own flatulent.
I don’t know, maybe it is your low level of intellect that prevents you from seeing that people like you are the reason that “fenqings” exist in the first place.
The easiest thing in the world is to levy criticism at other people — to point out what their shortcomings are, to see how they’re doing something wrong. Yeah, criticizing is worlds easier than accomplishing something meaningful yourself.
It is kinda incredibly arrogant to sit back and point out all them flaws without even the vaguest attempt to understand the emotion, the motivation, and the subtle psychological nuisances that drives people and their actions.
But isn’t that exactly what being a critic is all about?
There is something truly lame about just pointing out the problems without any attempt at a meaning solution. Even an idiot can be a critic.
Why don’t you just separate yourself from the herd and use that thing between your ears and think about what all those “fenqings” are all worked up about.
Here’s a clue, it is independent of Toad Bed.
And don’t be scared to ask when you can’t think of anything.
Just planting seeds…
@so_damn_lame:
Calling others ‘a-hole’ is neither respectful nor the least bit creative, so please don’t do it again.