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A Photo Contest Captures the Stunning Flora and Fauna of Macedonia and Albania's Lake Ohrid

Marina Sadikoska

Photo: Marina Sadikoska/OhridSOS, used with permission.

Entries to a photo contest called “The Voice of the Lake” showing lush scenery, majestic wildlife and discarded man-objects at Lake Ohrid, which straddles Albania and Macedonia, have recently sparked interest among many Macedonians.

The contest was organized by the Citizen Initiative OhridSOS, which is fighting to stop harmful urbanization projects that threaten to destroy the magnificent lake, which is the largest natural lake in Macedonia and the oldest lake on the European continent.

Shots capture mute swans, various freshwater fish and crustaceans and even some house furniture in the lake waters and shores.

The three images below featuring beautiful landscapes and an underwater resident of Lake Ohrid were chosen as the contest winners by those who voted on Facebook.

OhridSOS activists decided to also award their own favorite photo. The winner? The lovely image below featuring a sunset scene with reed and gulls on Lake Ohrid.

Photo: Nebojsha Gelevski/ Ohrid SOS, used with permission.

Photo: Nebojsha Gelevski/Ohrid SOS, used with permission.

87 comments

  • HerodotusHistories945

    Macedonia is in Greece not ancient Paeonia. Those that unethically evade over the former Yugoslavians recent identity quick change into apparently Slavic founders of the Hellenistic period have no credibility

    • Eli

      Get a fucking life you troll. This article is about photography, not a forum for you apply your neanderthal views.

      • HerodotusHistories945

        Evasion is not an out you patronizing asshat. Giant Alexander statues in Skopje are pretty hard to miss you greek hating bigot. You would have made a fine jail guard at aAuschwitz. Just look the other way at the art on the wall and pretend nothing is wrong. Hide behind numbers all you want. The Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts isn’t going anywhere you ethnic cleansing prick.

      • HerodotusHistories945

        Hows this for photography.

        http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/usercontent/images/article_images/Alexander2.jpg

        Two guesses as to which language this Alexandrian era coin is written in.

        A. Bulgarian dialect modified and renamed “Macedonian” by cold war communist thugs.

        B. Greek.

        Keep up the great “human rights” work champ.

        • i c u

          Did you know that Modern Greek language and the Ancient Greek language is completely different?
          Did you know that Alexander the Great coins have been found in Israel? He must have been a Jew if we go by the Greek theory.

          Now upload a pic of your “art” lmao.

          • demeter

            Did you know you are full of crap? You have things exactly backwards. Of all modern languages Greek has the most in common with its ancient counterpart.

            And speaking of language, why don’t you former Yugoslavians ever mention your so called “macedonian” language… used to be called BULGARIAN!

             
    • Truth

      Dude, it’s not 2600 years ago… Your brainwashed with no concept of reality.

      • HerodotusHistories945

        You are whose brainwashed. You couldn’t tell the difference between something authentically Macedonian and a tomato. You jhust senselessly follow the national, positions of your dishonerable government officials and media rather than analyze the situation with your own head. (both of whom are shamelessly trying to hide their mistake of ridiculously calling Slavs “ethnic” Macedonians)

        Dear “Truth” tell your patronzing lectures on history to those that claim to be “British”.. or “Chinese”… or “indian”… or “Jewish”… or (insert group here with a long history). Most of all tell you pretentious lectures to the former Yugoslavians that now claim to be founders of the Hellenistic period.. while billions unethically evade.

        .

        • Tedi

          Oh gosh. You remind me of Kermit the Frog responding angrily. Do you ever smile you angry Greek?

      • HerodotusHistories945

        Further reading for the ethnic cleansers of Greeks.
        http://macedonia-evidence.org/obama-letter.html

      • HerodotusHistories945

        When evasive Greek hating assholes like you finally learn to report events in your own lifetime truthful, rather than unethically evading over the former YUGOSLAVIANS recent identity quick change into founders of the Hellenistic period and irredentism against my homeland, then you get to have a say on history. Narrating smart mouthed racist jerks that evade have no moral or intellectual credibility.

      • HerodotusHistories945

        Further reading for the pretentious racist moron.

        http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-wp-macedonia-e6860590-371a-11e6-8f7c-d4c723a2becb-20160620-story.html

        • i c u

          Woohoo low level journalist who has a Greek partner in crime. Honestly, get a life and take a DNA test. Let me assure you that you’re not even related to Zeus… Go troll those politicians that are making your people cry in desperation for a loaf of bread.

          • demeter

            You are in no position to lecture anyone. 20 years post communism you are still at 25% unemployment and so pathetic you try to steal the history of another country. Good luck with your brilliant plan Nazi-boy. No doubt with enough “recognition” ancient Macedonian artifacts will rewrite themselves from Greek.

             
          • Tedi

            “The Greek seasonally adjusted unemployment rate came in at 23.5 percent in January 2017”
            – WOW, you Greeks are far to prosperous for peasants like us Macedonians. With so many innovations and a bright future, i should be ashamed being a Macedonian then… but i still wonder why you want to be Macedonian?

             
          • demeter

            You mean you are ashame do being an ethnic Bulgarian. Macedonians are already Greeks.

             
          • demeter

            Look at all the innovations from from Skopje…

            – high unemployment
            – fascist VMRO refuses to give up power
            – shameless SLAVIC thieves like you are trying to usurp the very identity of Greeks.

            btw – Good luck with that. I’m sure with enough “recognition” the Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts will change into the Bulgarian dialect you now ridiculously claim as “Macedonian”.

             
          • Tedi

            Lets see Greece’s innovations then? Thinking…..hmmm creative Maths and statistics!!! YES!! That got you into the EU club of misery and that has made you walk around with your head so far up your $ss you modern day hobbit with Spartan like innuendos.

            Remember when that Frump Trump was going for Presidency? How many Macedonian teenagers used their ‘spare time’ to get online and make thousands of euros just by posting and making up news articles? See, they know that there is no point in begging the corrupt EU while your little Spiros Windexoglou’s are waiting for the bailout and pretend to go to school so they can be highly educated with a masters degree when they step into the “real” world of high unemployment and a common degree.

            Yes, you’ve created everything………..2500 years ago.

             
          • demeter

            All your narratives and propaganda will not change the Greek writing on ancient macedonian artifacts. The entire universe can ridiculously call you “Macedonians” and Greeks can disappear off the face of the earth… and it will never turn the founders of the HELLENISTIC period into SLAVS.

            It may take a few more wars to end this issue once and for all but you will lose. History is written. Eventually future generations of citizens even in your own country will get sick of lying. They will look at your generation as fools and go looking for their real history… aka Bulgarian history.

             
          • demeter

            Fake news from a fake ethnic group that shamelessly tries to steal the history of another country.. Wow. Impressive. That’s quite a human “achievement”. You should be proud.

             
          • demeter

            Hey Tedi

            out of curiousity when Skopians visit your cousins in Bulgaria do you pretend you can’t understand the Bulgarian language? And when you see ancient Macedonian artifacts, do you pretend you can read the Greek found on them?

            Let me guess? Evade answering the question again? Pure coward.

             
          • Tedi

            hey demented. I guess it depends which part of the country you come from. I cant understand my first cousins who are on the other side of Macedonia to where my father grew up. I haven’t visited Bulgaria myself but i did meet a Bulgarian girl on a cruise ship once and I tried to speak to her in Macedonian while she was speaking to me in Bulgarian. I found it hard to understand her, so I resumed speaking to her in English.

            I do however have Serbian friends and I do understand Serbian. I have been surrounded by Russians on vacation for 10 days and towards the middle of my vacation i could start to understand the Russians.

            your point?

            Do you know that the modern greek dialect has over 40,000 Turkish words in it? WOW…and thats not including your Turkish surnames you walk around with. I wont start on your Greco Turkish mannerisms either.

            Now, please don’t pretend you understand me..i dont want anybody to confuse me for a Greek. It will give me nightmares forever!!

             
          • demeter

            There is not “other side’ of Macedonia Tedi. Macedonia, the homeland of Alexander, is in Greece. Not the fualt of greeks VMRO’s fascist morons confused ancient Paeonia with Macedonia.

             
          • demeter

            Anyone that calls you obvious frauds “Macedonian” couldn’t tell difference from a Slav and Macedonian if their lives depended on it. Not only are you not “Macedonians” but by being antihellenic you are defacto anti-Macedonian. Hate filled frauds who simply substitute the word SLAVS with “Macedonian”.

             
          • demeter

            Well Macedonians and you have something in common then Tedi. Macedonians wonder why you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians want to be “Macedonians”?

             
          • Tedi

            See how you change the subject back onto something you can’t prove when you get side slapped? Cry MF

             
          • demeter

            I did not “change the subject’. That is something you do Tedi. Every time someone Greek points out your ethnic BULGARIAN heritage (mostly) you pretend you don’t notice the comment.

             
          • demeter

            Speaking of someone changing the subject… why didn’t you answer the question below?

            What did your alleged “Macedonian” national hero Krste Misirkov mean when he said in “On Macedonian Matters” (Sophia 1903)…

            WE ARE BULGARIANS, MORE BULGARIAN THAN THE BULGARIANS IN BULGARIA,

            Let me guess. No comment and switch the conversation? Coward.

             
      • demeter

        You lecture about “brainwashed”…while obvious antihellenic Slavs try to narrate themselves into founders of the Hellenistic period?

        Please go f-ck yourself you patronizing fascist POS.,

    • i c u

      Actually, Macedonia expanded way beyond what is northern Greece today, into present Republic of Macedonia. Athens had nothing to do with Macedonia. There were no borders a hundred or so years ago. Oh and please explain how are you a Hellen when Modern Greeks are Orthodox? Google Hellenistic religion and read about the history because clearly you docile, you’re not understanding what you preach.

      Now, upload one of your useless photos you old perve.

      • demeter

        Indeed. Rome also expanded into Britain. This does not make Britain the homeland of Romans. Nor does it make ancient Paeonia the homeland of Alexander. For the homeland of alexander one must travel south of the Skopje.. to Macedonia… Greece.

        • Tedi

          But Alexander wasn’t Greek. he clearly was Macedonian. You Greeks never won a war. Name one that you did? If Xerxis impaled you

          • demeter

            Alexander, and the rest of macedonians, are self-identifying Greeks. You SLAVS have nothing to do with Alexander. You are mostly ethnic Bulgarians who shame your owner ancestors by claiming to be “Macedonians”.

             
          • demeter

            VMRO “logic”: The founders of the HELLENISTIC period were not Greeks… but antihellenic Slavs living in ancient Paeonia are “Macedonians”. Brilliant. You are truly a genius of the ages Tedi.

             
          • demeter

            Not only do you have nothing to do with Alexander dear deluded Tedi but by being antihellenic you Slavs stand against everything the founders of the Hellenistic period stood for.

            While you Slavs may ridiculously use the term “Macedonian” to now describe yourselves (rather than Bulgarian like your ancestors) you are defacto anti-Macedonians. A Macedonian would proudly call themselves a Hellene… just their ancient Macedonian forefathers.

             
          • Tedi

            Demented – If you can read a map (even an ancient one and even your pre-1988 school maps) then you would see that Grecia isn’t Makedonia AND you will understand that Makedonia geographically was spread well into Republic of Macedonia today and NO WHERE near Athens or Sparta, since half of you like to think you’re Spartans then rave on like lunatics about Makedonia being yours. LOL..

            Oh and what is the most hilarious of all is when you see a Pontion spit out Ancient Greek stuff and their ownership of Makedonia including Alexander when their great grandfather emigrated from Turkey into Solun (modern day Thessaloniki) during the population exchange in the 1900’s.

            So they today claim to be near Pella yet my grandmother named “Makedonka” who was born there along with all her ancestors are just “Slavs” who were visitors.

            You mental Greeks have a great way of destructing and erasing the truth by your motto, “tell a lie long enough then people will start to believe you”.
            Nope, not me nor the intellectual. We will listen then put together the facts, question you then you will go ape shit and then froth at the mouth saying your bullshatology , talking nonsense, change subjects and then cry!

            Don’t cry Moderno Greek, i still know those socks that you wear are the ones your grandmother knitted for you back on the goat farm.

             
          • demeter

            Sigh. You have confused modern place names with ancient Tedi. If you could read an ancient map, you would discover that Skopje is the homeland of the ancient Paeonians. For the homeland of Alexander, one has to move further south the Macedonia… Greece.

             
          • Tedi

            Sigh….. you can’t answer me but garbage. Keep yapping dog breath

             
          • demeter

            Nice evasion Tedi.

            Did the homeland of Alexander Macedonia, Greece, turn into ancient Paeonia because you just evaded?

            And did the Greek writing on ancient Macedonian artifacts turn into the Bulgarian dialect Yugoslav communists renamed “Macedonian” yet? Well maybe tomorrow with enough recognition.

             
          • Tedi

            Did you say it’s Greek writing AFTER you destroyed & vandalised Macedonian street signs, tombstones etc in what is Northern Greece today thanks to your Western help in the 20th Century?

            Do tell me why there is still today a majority of Slav speaking Macedonians in and around Pella?

             
          • demeter

            You forgot to mention what you claims “Macedonian” language today… you yourselves used to call BULGARIAN language.

            You can lie all you wish. Your foreign apologists can evade over your recent identity quick change into “ancient Macedonians” all they wish. Greek writing on ALL ancient Macedonian artifacts isn’t going anywhere.

             
          • demeter

            There are lots of Arabs in Israel. This does not make them the original Israelites any more than you are “Macedonians”. All you are doing is substituting the word Slavs for “Macedonians”.

            You can’t win because no amount of recognition can change history Tedi. You are going to go to your grave tortured by your fake identity. You could call it a day but you clearly prefer conflict. You will get your wish.

             
          • Tedi

            How do you know this demented?

            Ok, please tell us demented how you can walk around with a Turkish family name and claim that you are Greek?

             
          • demeter

            Dear Skopian I don’t have a Turkish family name but I bet you do have a Slavic name.

             
          • demeter

            What you get is if you keep up your behavior their is eventually going to be war again. What you don’t get is no matter how much support you get, no matter how many narrations you make, no matter how many evade to hide their mistake of recognizing you… .the founders of the Hellenistic period will never, never, change into Slavs. History is written Tedi.

            You will go to your grave tortured by your propaganda and fake identity Tedi…. and rightfully so. You deserve it for being a fascist.

             
          • Tedi

            Bahahahaha without you going on your knees to beg Trump to do your dirty work, we know a Greeks military style is ‘stabbing you in the back’…civilian style.

            You couldn’t even get TRNC when the Turks started with the Cypriots. Shame on you proud Greeks. Now, keep writing poems…

             
          • demeter

            Conflict will come if you continue to threaten Greek territory. It won’t be Greeks that start it either. We could have bombed you into oblivion already. It will be fascist cowards like you crying to the Turks, Americans, Russians and anyone else you can find to do your dirty work.

            If conflict comes Tedi, we will be forced to find out where Skopians like you live and start taking you out one by one. That’s not my preference. I prefer to live in peace but if you try to exterminate me, my family, and annex 1/3 of my country… you better be preparing for war.

             
          • Tedi

            Bahahahaha one acronym comes to mind you tembel Spartan…. TRNC

            Useless twat

             
          • demeter

            Threaten Macedonia again and war will come. Chose wisely.

             
          • demeter

            Hey Tedi, what did your national hero Kriste Misirkov mean when he said in “On Macedonian Matters”…..

            “We are BULGARIANS. More BULGARIANS than the BULGARIANS in BULGARIA”

            Let me guess. No comment and another red herring?

             
          • Tedi

            You mean this, Krste Miriskov

            “In the period between 1903 and 1907 he published a book and a scientific magazine in which he affirmed the existence of a Macedonian national identity separate from other Balkan nations, and attempted to codify a standard Macedonian language based on the Central Macedonian dialects. A survey conducted in the Republic of Macedonia found Misirkov to be “the most significant Macedonian of the 20th century”.For his efforts to codify a standard Macedonian language, he is often considered “the founder of the modern Macedonian literary language”.

             
          • demeter

            So typical of a Skopian. Just edit out the parts of history that contradict your historical claims. Coward.

            “The history of the construction of a Macedonian national identity does not begin with Alexander the Great in the fourth century B.C. or with Saints Cyril and Methodius in the ninth century A.D. as Macedonian nationalist historians often claim”

            “Krste Misirkov, who had clearly developed a strong sense of his own personal national identity as a Macedonian and who outspokenly and unambiguously called for Macedonian linguistic and national separatism, acknowledged that a Macedonian national identity was a relatively recent historical development.”

            “The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov’s call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians.”

            – Loring Danforth, “The Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World”, Princeton Univ Press, December 1995

             
          • demeter

            Yes. That same Misirkov.. the one whom also said the words below too but you always omit that part because you are a coward that refuses to face the truth. Much easier to blame the Greek for your own lies.

            “‘And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?

            “Who is against a greater Bulgaria is against Slavism”

            “The population of Skopje is pure Bulgarian.”

            “Macedonians means only Macedonian Bulgarians”

            “Some will ask why I speak of breaking away from the Bulgarians when in the past we have even called ourselves Bulgarians ”

            “Come what may, our separation from the Bulgarians…”

            “We did indeed call ourselves “Bulgarians” and “Christians” in the national sense”

            “The first objection — that a Macedonian Slav nationality has never existed — may be very simply answered as follows: what has not existed in the past may still be brought into existence later, provided that the appropriate historical circumstances arise.”

            “why is it that they cannot and will not agree that from this larger ethnographic unit, which everybody including themselves describes as the Bulgarian nation, two smaller units might be formed: a Bulgarian and a Macedonian one?”

            “The emergence of the Macedonians as a separate Slav people is a perfectly normal historical process”

            “No matter whether we call ourselves Bulgarians or Macedonians we shall always feel as a nationality with a Bulgarian national consciousness”

             
          • Tedi

            I didn’t omit nothing. You omit modern day logic.

             
          • demeter

            Yes you did omit. Misirkov of many occasions admitted not only his own bulgarian heritage but said that you Skopians were Bulgarians too. You of course leave that part out when crying crocodile tears of persecution.

             
          • demeter

            You didn’t actually answer my question. What did your “Macedonian” national hero Krste Misirkov mean by these words? That you were ancient macedonians? Or that you used to call yourselves Bulgarians?

            “We are BULGARIANS. More BULGARIANS than the BULGARIANS in BULGARIA”

             
          • Tedi

            You just ignored my fact and switched straight into your parroting propaganda mode. If you don’t copy and paste from your Greek sites, you aren’t very smart nor bright. Nothing original about you…i can throw a blanket over a bunch of Greeks and you all sound the same. Yawn.

            Now being original is a talent you don’t have.

             
          • demeter

            I didn’t ignore yours. You ignored mine I asked you question about what Misirkov meant when he said you Skopians are Bulgarians. Instead of answering you provided a red herring to distract attention from the question. Coward.

             
          • demeter

            Again I have to ask.. .since you keep evading. what did your “Macedonian” national hero Krste Misirkov mean when he said.

            “WE ARE BULGARIANS. MORE BULGARIANS THAN THE BULGARIANS IN BULGARIA”?

            Lemmie guess. Going to avoid answering again by changing the subject? Coward.

             
          • demeter

            You seem to have “forgotten” we kicked your ethnic Bulgarian asses out of the homeland of Alexander 3 times dear Tedi. (Balkan wars, WW when IMRO sided with fascism because your Bulgarian cousins did, and Greek civil war when you took the other extreme of communism)

            If you SLAVS cause another war with your “Macedonian” word games again.. next time we will go even further. You aren’t even part of the Bulgarian ethnic group any more. You are an evil ideology whose sole purpose is the eradication of anything legitimately Macedonian to supplant it with Slavs.

            Thus the only solution to the situation is your complete erasure. The so-called Slav “Macedonian” identity needs be wiped of the face of the earth. We could lived in peace together but instead you preferred conflict. You will get your wish.

             
          • Tedi

            “An evil ideology”? Bahahahaha now anybody who hasn’t associated with Greeks might think twice at your dribble but anybody who has….well, they know that Greeks like thats no surprise.

            That English businessman i met in Greece once didn’t have pleasant things to say about you people and he goes to Greece all the time!! When i told him that I was Macedonian he certainly knew that I didn’t mean Greek either!!!

            Cry me a river you soft hand tembel Greeks… you’re as harmless a fly but damn annoying!!

             
          • demeter

            Yes. The SLAVIC frauds that call themselves “Macedonians” are 100 percent the creation of state propaganda. You are Nazi fraud.

             
          • Tedi

            Name one war.. attacking civilians with western help doesnt make your Hercules.
            You hid when the war in TRNC was happening.

            Tembels

             
          • demeter

            Fanatics go on and on how Greeks kicked your fascists than communist BULGARIAN asses out of Macedonia. Boo Hoo. Tell your tears of persecution to the Greek hating morons that supported you. Maybe they are stupid enough to keep believing you.

             
          • demeter

            What war did you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians win? You lost the balkan wars to Greeks. You and your Nazi pals lost WW2 to the allies… including Greeks. During the cold war you and your communist pals lost again.

            In the last century alone… Macedonians 3. Slave in ancient Paeonia. 0.

             
          • Tedi

            Name one war you Greeks won? You couldn’t even get TRNC in the 70’s from your brother Turks who are settling in Athens today. I heard they’re the biggest purchasers in real estate. Personally, I’d rather invest my 250,000€ elsewhere to gain residency. Who wants to reek on Greek?

             
          • demeter

            Repeating yourself tedi. We kicked your former ethnic Bulgarian asses three time in the 20th century alone.

            I suggest you read up Skopje’s ethnic Bulgarian heritage and leave the history lessons for the adults.

             
          • demeter

            You mean your brothers the Turks. Erdogan and Gruevski are great pals. United in hatred of Greeks Unfortunately for you Slavs and your Islamo-fascist pal… ancient Macedonian artifacts aren’t going anywhere.

            You are going to have to lie… and lie… and lie.. and lie.. until one day a Skopian generation with actual intelligence and actual ethics.. will get sick of lying for fascists like you. And that will be that.

             
          • Tedi

            Demented. Google in images and type in “samaras and erdogan” showing affection. BAHAHAHAHAH Turkoglou Timeless. Now you wonder why the Turks are buying into Greek real estate. be kind to your relatives from abroad since Easter was a disaster for you

             
          • demeter

            You can narrate all you wish. It is VMRO that has close ties with Islamo-fascist-lite Erdogan not Greeks. Cowards like you suck up to any Greek hating foreigner you can find

             
          • Tedi

            Huggy huggy Samaras & Erdogan. They even look related!! LOL
            How’s the Turkish buying up real estate in Athens? Be nice to your future landlord. I guess surrounding themselves with Greeks reminds them of being surrounded by Turkish citizens ROFL!!

             
          • demeter

            blah blah blah. Dear liar, it is your VMRO government that is cosing up with Islamist Erdogan. This is because you are unprincipled cowards that look to get anti-Greek Turks to do your dirty work

             
          • demeter

            Do a search of erdogan gruevski… lots and lots of pictures of your fascist leader and your Turkish Islamistic pal Erdogan. Slavs and Turks…united in hatred of anything Macedonian.

            http://www.vlada.mk/node/1723

             
          • demeter

            It’s hilarious when you obvious frauds grasp at straws by claiming Greeks are “Turks”. “Ethiopians’ or anything else but Greek… when you are ALL obvious Slavs.

            Slavic Timeless!

             
          • Tedi

            Nineteenth century Greeks did not regard the Macedonians as people of the same ethnicity (Politis 1993:36; Dimaras 1958; Karagatsis, 1952).(1) Greeks in the late eighteen hundreds and earl nineteenth century viewed the Macedonians as conquerors of Greece. Only after the Megale Idea took up roots in the Greek scholarship, did Greeks embark on providing and securing ‘evidence’ for their new political vision; which was born and bred from the limbs of the rapidly decaying Ottoman Empire. Macedonia was the only Balkan country left under the Turkish rule after the congress of Berlin in 1878. After the national uprising in 1903 that ended with catastrophic consequences for the Macedonian populace, the leadership of the country was largely decimated by the lawless bands of Turkish marauders, who mercilessly and indiscriminately slaughtered the defenseless masses. Consequently, the Macedonians found themselves too exhausted and leaderless, and lacked political will and stamina to rise up again and unite their bewildered and poor brethren into a cohesive political unit. This calamitous situation, coupled with the prevailing lawlessness and the “illness of the Sultan”, was exploited by the neighbors of Macedonia who launch their own armed bands and political agitators to prepare, and secure for themselves a piece of the Macedonian territory.(2) Thus, the Serbs, the Bulgarians and the Greeks succeeded in partitioning Macedonia among themselves in 1913 with the treaty of Bucharest, and with this act most of ancient Macedonia was incorporated into the Greek state for the first time (Borza 1990)…”

             
      • demeter

        All of Europe converted to christiantity (mostly under duress). I would point out you former Yugoslavians are hardly believers in the ancient Greek religion practiced by ancient macedonians either.

        Come to think about it… rather odd that SLAVS now claim to be the antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period no?

        • Tedi

          Wow buddy, you are still churning inside months later…that or you are just thinking of my fro.
          Hey, maybe you should convert back to what your baba Sultan Sullieman was? That way you can stop whining that you were converted.

          • demeter

            Seem to recall Greeks fought the Turks for our liberty. You know back when you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of Skopje were under your pals the Islamic Turks

             
          • demeter

            Hey Skopians what did your “Macedonian” national hero Krste Misirkov mean when he said in “On Macedonian Matters”

            WE ARE BULGARIANS, MORE BULGARIAN THAN THE BULGARIANS IN BULGARIA,

            Oh let me guess Tedi. No comment and switch the conversation to some red herring. Your cowardice to address the issue of Skope’s ethnic Bulgarian past isn’t very “Macedonian” of you. :(

             
          • demeter

            I didn'[t get your answer dear Skopian. Rather odd that SLAVS now claim to be the antihellenic founders of the Hellenistic period no?

             
          • Tedi

            Demented. Nobody is claiming to be founders of Hellenic anything but Modern Greeks.

            It’s ironic that you have an umpteen number of Ottomon traditions such as the ‘evil eye’, ‘your middle eastern food’ , ‘Turkish coffee’, ‘mannerisms’ , ‘40,000 Turkish words in the modern Greek dialect’ and lets not forget that half of you have ‘Turkish surnames’. Yet you claim that you’re more related to Zeus than Sultan Sulieman who occupied the Parthenon as his Harem for 400 years before the Italians bombed it – yet you still drool over the Italians today. LOL!!!

            Now you’re looking more and more like Plato and Leonides every day just because you Greeks say so!!

            Turkoglou Timeless-forever Greek, eh?

             
          • demeter

            You have no clue what’s going on. By now suddenly claiming claiming to be ancient Macedonians, and ancient Macedonians self-identifying as Hellenes, you fascists morons are (unwittingly) claiming to be the “real” Greeks… that hate anything Greek.

             
          • demeter

            LMAO. A Slav that ridiculously tries to link himself to Alexander has no credibility as a “historian”.

            Newsflash. Every accredited historian on earth, including even some in Skopje, knows you are full of sh-t. The only ones that don’t know are VMRO fanatics and the idiots that supported you that lack the integrity to admit they made a mistake.

             
          • Tedi

            Demented. Your the one dribbling about 2500 year old history claiming ownership. Tell me, if you were all that then why is modern Greece a fail and why haven’t you stopped one rubber boat full of Jihadi’s that are invading your “sacred” land. Damn boy, Piraeus Port and Athens must be an eye sore these days…. as much as that cranky the crane thats parked next to the Parthenon for what….10 years now LOOOOOL
            Tembels

             
          • demeter

            Blah blah blah. Fanatics like you have no credibility lecturing about history. Only 20 years ago your own government was assuring your apologists you SLAVS weren’t related to ancient macedonians. Their are no excuses left for idiots like you.

             
          • demeter

            Whats “demented” is every time I point out most of skopje’s ancestors used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians as late as the 20th century… you act like you don’t notice the cold hard fact.

            You are a pure coward. So completely in denial you can’t even face evidence of your own ethnic Bulgarian past.

             
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