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Would Confucius Support the Sunflower Movement in Taiwan?
Written by I-fan Lin On 17 April 2014 @ 2:06 am | No Comments
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Opinions are divided in Taiwan following the end of #CongressOccupied protests against a secretly negotiated trade deal with China. Members of the movement left the country's legislature on April 10, 2014 after occupying the building for more than three weeks.
Protesters conceded after the speaker of the Legislative Yuan, as the Taiwanese Congress is called, promised to pass legislation monitoring future agreements proposed by the executive branch before deliberating on the current Cross-Strait Service Trade Agreement (CSSTA). Some had worried the deal would make Taiwan vulnerable to political pressure from Beijing.
While members of the Sunflower Movement, as the protests were dubbed, exited the building , protesters from the Free Taiwan Alliance and the Alliance for a Referendum on Taiwan decided to continue their public gathering outside the legislature . However, they were forcibly removed from the scene by police on April 11 at 7 a.m.
In response, 2,000 protesters demonstrated  outside the police station. The next day, supporters of the police also organized a gathering criticizing the protesters for disturbing public order.
Online, some have questioned protesters’ voluntary exit from the Legislative Yuan, while others believe the protest against police has shifted the attention away from the trade agreement to police violence.
Many pro-government and pro-police comments have emerged. There are quite a number of debates  concerning who is to blame for the aggression against protesters.
Lidance looked into the two different positions  that the Taiwanese generally take on the Sunflower Movement in a blog post:
After the students occupied the legislature, we could see the furious debate on the Internet between the pro-protester side (A) and the pro-government side (B).
I think the A side is more “analytic” in their thinking and the B side tends to be more “intuitive”.
When the pro-protester A side witnessed violence, instead of making a direct moral judgment of the violence, they reflected on its purpose and ask, “Why do they use violence?”
When the pro-government B side witnessed violence, they evaluated it based on their moral intuition, and they opposed the students’ violence and accepted the police and the government’s violence.
Some believe the pro-government opinions are rooted in Confucianism, an ideology that has great impact on Chinese society. In Taiwan, there is an ongoing discussion on on whether Confucianism can get along with democracy .
Wang Li believed  that pro-government and pro-stability opinions are rooted in Confucianism in his blog:
If we look at people’s reactions toward the Sunflower Movement , you can observe a lot of examples that prove the psychological structure of our political society is rooted in Confucianism.
They oppose the student movement because it disrupts the social order… What they oppose is the disruption of the relationship between the dominate classes and the subordinate classes. Say, the students should listen to the adults and study hard, then they will have their chance to climb up the social ladder after ten years. How come these students became so popular and became leaders of society overnight? What they really object to is a disruption of societal stability.
What is the stable social structure that they have in mind? In such a society, children should bow to their parents, students should pay respect to their teachers, and people should obey the government. As a result, the students’ resistance must be wrong. The young should not teach the old what to do, and the young cannot be impolite.
The result? These people think that the violation of the constitution is not a big problem, but if the students skip their classes, that is a big issue. The ruling party’s failure to lead the country for years is not a problem, but the opposition party fighting back and protests that last for a few days are unacceptable. The failure of industrial policy is not a problem, but the students’ objection to the policy is a big problem. [According to their logic], the incapable bosses do not need to leave, but the workers and middle ranking staffs should leave.
“When Mencius met King Hui of Liang, the king asked him, ‘Since you have traveled a long way to see me, do you have some suggestions to profit my country?’ Mencius said, ‘Why does your highness ask me about profit? Benevolence and justice are more important. If your highness asks about what to do to profit your country, your courtiers would ask what to do to profit their families, and the common people would ask what to do to profit themselves. If everyone focuses on profiting themselves, this country is in a dangerous situation. On a large scale, if what everyone thinks about is profiting himself instead of justice, a courtier who owns 1,000 chariots would kill his king who owns 10,000 chariots, and a courtier who owns 100 chariots would kill his king who owns 1,000 chariots.
It is simple mathematics. People would not stop grabbing others’ belongings until they were satisfied with what they have. On the other hand, a man who is benevolent would never leave his family behind, and a man who believes in justice would never kill his king. Your highness should ask about benevolence and justice instead of profit.”
These students understand that free trade is an unstoppable trend, but it is more important to benefit everyone in our society and keep relationships. If we have money but lose our family and friends, is it a good choice? If we earn a lot of money but lose societal relations in Taiwan, is it a good choice?
Mr. Hsieh, a high school teacher, also quoted  Confucius to show that the philosopher would have condemned the injustice in his blog:
“Mr. Chi is already wealthier than the Duke of Zhou, but Jan Chiu is still helping him get more money. Confucius said, ‘He [Jan Chiu] is not my student any more, you should beat a drum to condemn him.’”
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URLs in this post:
 exited the building: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/FuMouDiscuss/M.1396911779.A.238.html
 continue their public gathering outside the legislature: https://www.facebook.com/NtuNewsEForum/posts/815931248436096?stream_ref=10
 demonstrated: http://fareasternpotato.blogspot.jp/2014/04/here-we-go-again.html
 debates: https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E8%A8%B1%E9%98%BF%E6%A3%9F/%E7%95%B6%E4%B8%80%E5%80%8B%E5%9C%8B%E5%AE%B6%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%B8%85%E6%A5%9A%E6%98%8E%E7%99%BD%E5%9C%B0%E5%91%8A%E8%A8%B4%E4%BD%A0%E4%BB%96%E9%81%95%E6%86%B2%E4%B9%9F%E6%B2%92%E9%97%9C%E4%BF%82%E8%AB%8B%E5%95%8F%E6%98%AF%E5%9C%8B%E5%AE%B6%E6%9A%B4%E5%8A%9B%E9%82%84%E6%98%AF%E6%8A%97%E8%AD%B0%E6%9A%B4%E5%8A%9B/744645808913677
 two different positions: http://ninjiatext.blogspot.jp/2014/04/blog-post_13.html
 Image: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=769837726362675&set=a.239959259350527.69409.100000093635490&type=1&theater
 on whether Confucianism can get along with democracy: https://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/07/02/taiwan-democracy-with-a-confucian-face/
 believed: http://blog.yam.com/eoiss/article/73558219
 Sunflower Movement: https://globalvoicesonline.org/specialcoverage/taiwans-congressoccupied-protests/
 quoted: http://ninjiatext.blogspot.jp/2014/04/blog-post_3.html
 Mencius: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius
 also quoted: http://micnet.blogspot.com/2014/03/i-am-a-citizen.html
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