The Chief Executive Donald Tsang's policy speech last week didn't give people any surprise. The hottest subject is about Legislator Raymond Wong Yuk-man, Chair of the League of Social Democrats, throwing a banana at Tsang in the Legislative Council during the Q & A session. It marks the beginning of a new political culture. ESWN gave a background to the banana politics on 17 of Oct in his daily brief.
Here is a youtube video that shows what happened on that day.
To throw or not to throw, that's the question
AgogoCK supports the action:
1. 講得出做得到, 選舉時都講明啦, 加生果金, 最底工資..入左局咪做野囉
2. 有討論區擔心, 社民連會搞到立法局開會變左台灣咁..有聽毓民節目都知啦, 人人打電話上去, 說毓民唔岩, 因為飛唔中…..毓民都回應飛中要負責架, 就算點激我諗教主都唔會咁蠢
Of course I support the action
1. they have promised during the election that they would fight for an increase of old people's monthly subsidy, the policy of minimum wage. Of course they have to act in the Legco.
2. Some people worried that LSD would turn the HK legco into a Taiwan counterpart. If you have listened to Raymond's internet radio program, most of his supporters felt pity that he had missed the target, then Raymond answered that he intended to miss it because he has to be responsible…
A supporter of LSD and Long Hair, Kam is disappointed by Raymond Wong's action:
The three members of LSD, please give yourself some respect. Struggle is necessary and people vote for you to counter the government. However, we don't want to see a group of thugs who disrespect rules and just do the shouting. We need you to use your brain and reflect people's opinion with better technique. I hope Raymond Wong can follow Long Hair example to express his opinion rationally.
Rachel Mui however disagrees that politicians’ tendency in equalizing the relation between students and teachers with legislators and government:
It seems reasonable to ask the legislators to perform according to rule for educating our next generation, however, the government secretary need to understand, Raymond Wong is elected by the people and is a representative of the people while the government is not. There are some people in the society who want to bring the street protest culture into the Legislative council and they do so by casting their vote. The LSD members wouldn't have entered the Legco without people's support. In the past few days, some of their supporters asked them to train their skill and not to miss the target next time. Of course, so said that they don't want to see Taiwan political culture be imported to Central because we have demonstration everyday in the street and don't need to repeat that in the Legco. The Legislators would adjust their tactics accordingly, they are testing the water, there is no need to react so strongly on the issue.
Moreover to compare the action to students throwing banana to teacher is very wrong. The government officials have to gain support from the representative of the people, not to give them lesson. The Legislators have to be responsible to their voters, not the officials. If they miss this logic, how can they get support from people?
In the facebook, there are so far 4 groups concerning LSD's banana action at the Legco, 3 of the groups support LSD and only one opposes. The supporting groups are
LSD for struggle, other pan democratic follow their fate – 27 members
Support LSD on throwing banana action – 485 members
Thanks Raymond Wong for the great banana throw – 285 members
The only one oppositional group is
LSD sucks… it doesn't get thing done, just make trouble – 1 member
New political culture
Of course the issue is not only about whether people support LSD to throw the banana or not, but also about the changing political culture in Hong Kong. Soho writes an article on “the political theory of throwing banana” at inmediahk.net:
Legislator Raymond Wong Yuk-man's “throwing banana” has attracted a lot of discussion, many youths suddenly start talking about politics and comment the issue. I am drawn to some oppositional voices, they speak in the “mother” style, saying that the action is a “misbehavior” and “disrespectful”, etc. I feel Hong Kong society is too innocent and naive.
When we look around at the political culture in East Asia, such as Taiwan, Japan and South Korea, sometimes legislators fight in the legislative council, and throwing banana is nothing. Of course, I am not advocating or supporting violence, however, when a system cannot reflect the public's opinion and reform itself, radical action is need to attract public concern and give pressure to the government.
In the comment section of the article, fc says:
Agreed. You really have to give LSD a lot of credit for energizing the electorate. Their acts are not radical but practical given the fact that all rules and customs favor the status quo. Disobedience (not violence though) is definitely the way to go.
According to a song from the musical, Evita, “Politics is the art of the impossible.”
However Jane Tse disagrees and relates the action to the notorious (in Hong Kong context) former President in Taiwan Chen Shui Bian's populist politics in the same comment section:
Raymond Wong and Long Hair act like that because they don't have pervasive reason in the Legco for winning other representatives’ support. Their barbaric action is just an expression of their emotion, it tells its voters that they don't know how to use their reason. They shouldn't have entered the Legco and should have remained in the street. With that position, they can protest in the Legco with their bananas and tomatoes without becoming an international joke. From this, we have reason to believe that people without proper up-bringing, once they get their power, they have less will to resist corruption? Chen Shui Bian is a good example. Democracy is just an excuse for him to get personal profit. He won't care about the disintegration of the society and provoke Taiwan's independent to create disorder. But the ultimate purpose is to help himself to gain interest. Worse still, the situation has result in the deep-green voter losing their sense in identifying good and evil deeds. The violent culture in Taiwan has thus become a joke in the international world and it shames Taiwan people. I believe that Hong Kong is a civilized community and I hope these group of self-claimed elite legislators stop performing their stupid acts that humiliate Hong Kong people.
Macdonald disagrees with Jane Tse and points out:
The Legco in Hong Kong has lost its function for long, the deliberation in the council has no impact on policy and the ruling elite continues the colonial policy. The situation cannot be resolved by being “rational” and “peaceful”. I don't think we can just compare the culture Legislative council of democratic area with Hong Kong. Democracy has different meaning in different context. In the history, nationalization and democratization usually came along side with some sort of violent culture in the council. This is not a result of populism (those who use this term has no sense of its meaning), but is a necessary process for bringing the establishment closer to the real need…
Funny face echoes with Macdonald:
I believe that many Hongkongers are scared of the Taiwan's style in the Legislative council. However, what exactly we are scared of? That we developed into a copy of Taiwan? That we may scared away those capitalists who had been threatening to migrate out of Hong Kong while seizing every opportunity to gain profit here? Or we are afraid to harm the relation with our god father (mainland government) who is already building relation with Taiwan? Or scared of losing our sense of security being attached to the establishment for too long? Now we don't seems to care about the systematic violence derived from real policy, regulations, composition of the Legco, etc, which is against people's interest, and waste our time in discussing who haven't wore a proper shirt and a tie, who speak too loud, who are disrespectful, etc. Those who ignore the collusion of government and corporate interest, while directing the public attention to gossip are conspirators.
Stupid people follow rule, those who fool stupid people to follow rule have bad intention.
Chan King Fai picks up the discussion in another article at inmediahk.net:
This kind of “following the rule” attitude has penetrated in every corner of our society, from school to shopping more to public transport to Legislative council, everywhere we can see the shadows of security guards and police. From street demonstration to Queen's pier to the “throwing of a banana”, whoever involved in these action are labelled as “trouble makers” or “radicals” or even “mob”. The demand to “follow the rule” has covered up the essential discussion on: why can't we sketch our own public space? Why shouldn't people resist the corporate bulldozers? Why can't the throwing of banana be a means to disturb the fake harmonious politics?