Korea: Chinese students fear for safety after torch relay violence

Global Voices Olympics Last week someone left a comment on a GVO post, something to the effect of ‘the whole world hates the Chinese people now’ and for a lot of people in (and outside) China, it sure is looking difficult to even be Chinese these days.

Following the violence in Seoul during the Olympic torch relay there last week, a lot of Chinese fenqing types are for the most part just seeing what they want to see in how their generation and China is now being perceived abroad, and not only on anti-CNN.com.

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At least these militant patriotic voices are still getting the most play online. The ‘River Crab Goes Ashore’ blogger has been posting recently on the themes of Olympic nationalism and China's image, and on May 2 reposted a piece that has been making the rounds on the internet, apparently written by a female student now in Korea, ‘Chinese exchange students cry foul: The Koreans have gone crazy!’ as well as the accompanying YouTube short:

 我们是27号当天参加迎接圣火的在韩留学生,我们和所有的中国留学生一样,是为了我们伟大的祖国,为了支持北京奥运而自发的组织前往迎接奥运圣火。然而我们的好意和爱国心被韩国的媒体抹煞,被他们曲解,这几天看到这些主流媒体的报道,我们每个在韩留学生的心都被伤透了,我们坚强的想着我们的祖国,我们的政府一定会还给我们公道。我们看着电视新闻里的报道画面,我们的学生挥舞着国旗,大声的呐喊“中国加油北京加油奥运加油”而播音员的解释却是中国留学生在恶意示威。说是中国大使馆纠集动员留学生示威闹事,甚至还说大使馆一个月前就给留学生准备了棍子等凶器。对,那天是有学生和不良分子起了冲突,但试问,当时的情况下哪个有血有肉的中国人可以视若无睹,圣火传递一路坎坷,出了那么多的事情,我们的学生被打伤,国旗、火炬被抢,如今来到了最后一个资本主义国家韩国,那些不良分子手持凶器就在留学生面前挑衅,而最终这些凶器却被报道成留学生所持有,他们采访不良分子,控诉留学生如何殴打他们,嘴里说着流利的韩语,却硬说自己只是来韩观光客,但韩国人就相信。

We are exchange students here in Korea who took part in welcoming The Sacred Torch on the 27th, and just like all the Chinese exchange students, we did it for our great Motherland, spontaneously forming groups to go support the Beijing Olympics and welcome the sacred Olympic torch. But, our good intention and patriotic spirit was suppressed by Korean media, distorted, and with the mainstream media news reports we've seen these past few days have broken each and every heart belonging to us exchange students here to Korea. We've been staying strong, thinking that our motherland and our government will without doubt see us get done justice. When we see the footage in the television news reports, of us students waving flags, shouting ‘Go China!, Go Beijing!, Go Olympics!’, the announcers’ interpretation is that Chinese exchanges students are holding hostile demonstrations. They say that the Chinese embassy gathered and mobilized us students to demonstrate and make trouble, even saying that the embassy handed out clubs and other weapons to us already a month ago. True, there were clashes between students and Bad Elements that day, but I'd just like to ask: under those conditions, what flesh and blood Chinese person could turn a blind eye? The sacred torch has been harangued all the way, so many things have occurred: our students have been beaten, the flag and torch have been snatched at, and here today in Korea, the final capitalist country, those Bad Elements stand in front of us exchange students holding their weapons and taunting us, but in the end those weapons got reported as belonging to us students; they interviewed those Bad Elements, who accused us of attacking them, of being able to speak fluent Korean, but then implying that we were just tourists here, and the Koreans are believing this.

  韩国网上贴出了留学生联合会干部的照片、学校、学科、年龄甚至手机号码,这些学生会代表的人身安全受到巨大威胁。不光是他们,从昨天周一开始,普通中国留学生们在学校、外面和打工的地方都受到了不同程度的威胁,在我们家附近对我很好的大妈,往常看到我就会亲切的拉着我问东问西,今天我跟她打招呼,她竟然立刻把头偏向一边。我一起住的朋友眼眶泛红的回来,一问才知道,她在回来的地铁上,只是拿着书翻译上课资料的,坐在她旁边的韩国男学生看到她在查中文,立刻就问”너 중국인요?”(你是中国人吗?)朋友问怎么了,他立刻就说“ 중국개새끼(中国狗杂种)”朋友问他”우리 처음 만나서 왜 나쁜 말이 했어요?(我们第一次见为什么要骂人?)”谁知那胖子竟然说 “중국사람이 다 개새기요(中国人全都是狗杂种) “朋友气不过立刻说”너 개새끼잖아(你才是)”,没想到周围的几个韩国人竟然全冲着我朋友围过来,并且七嘴八舌的说“原来就说中国人劣等今天一看果然没素质”,弄得她一个女孩子只能车一停也不管是哪站立刻就跑下车。  这样的事情这两天发生很多,问问周边的朋友,大部分都或多或少的遇到过,现在我们不敢单独出门,不敢太晚回来,一个人时甚至不敢用中文讲电话,我们晚上在外面吃饭时说中文,周围的韩国人竟然几乎都不吃饭拿异样的眼光瞪着我们,就连住在一层楼的韩国大学生都敢占着厕所不给我们用。在韩国两年来,从来没碰到过这样的事情,早就知道看到的都是道貌岸然,但没想到,一夜之间全还原了真面目。想告诉在国内的同胞真相,也感叹国内的朋友竟然大部分都不知道韩国出了这样的事,不知道韩国媒体甚至比CNN的报道更加恶劣,矛头直指驻韩大使馆和中国政府。今天韩国著名的Naver网站上,首页头条就标出他们总理的话:”中国人暴力示威是从侧面损伤韩国人的自尊“同时韩国媒体还指出,韩国民众现在对中国人暴力事件的愤怒没有丝毫减少,要求抓出捣乱分子交由司法处理。天哪,这到底是个什么地方,我们未来的情况到底会怎样,我们不敢跟国内的家人说,怕他们会担心,只有互相安慰互相告诫千万不要单独出门,甚至商量好把手机的快捷键设置成好朋友的电话,万一出事立刻能拨出求救,因为我们连警察也不相信。

Now being posted on the Korean internet are the photos, school, department, age and even mobile phone number of the Chinese Student Union executives, and these student union representatives have received enormous threats to their personal safety. And not just them; starting yesterday, Monday, random Chinese students on campus, outside or at their workplaces have all received threats to different extent. Near where we live there's this big lady who's always been really nice to me, stopping to ask how I've been whenever she sees me. I waved hi to her today, and then she suddenly turned her head in the opposite direction. Then later my roommate came home with red eyes and when I asked what was wrong, I found out that as she was taking the subway back, just translating some assignment work, the Korean male student sitting beside her saw her checking the Chinese, and immediately asked, ”너 중국인요?” (are you Chinese?), and my friend asked, ‘so what if I am?’ He immediately replied, “ 중국개새끼” (the Chinese are inbred dogs). My friend snapped right back, ”너 개새끼잖아” (you, maybe), and didn't expect then that several Koreans standing nearby would suddenly rush over and surround her, saying all at once thing like, “they always say the Chinese people have terrible character, now today I sure enough see that it's true,” until my friend had no choice but to run off as soon as the subway stopped, even though it wasn't her stop. Things like this have been happening a lot these past two days. I've been asking my friends, and most of them have more or less come across it, and now we don't dare go out alone, and don't dare come back too late. When we're alone we don't dare speak Chinese. We do at night when we're out eating, and the Koreans sitting around us actually all almost stop their eating and just stare at us with a strange look; even the Korean students living on the same floor as us won't come out of the bathroom so that we can use it. After two years in Korea, I've never come across anything like this. I've always known that what we see is their polite face, but I never thought that the true faces could come out suddenly overnight. I just want to tell our compatriots back in-country the truth, but at the same time sigh, because most of my friends back home actually have no idea of what's happened in Korea, and don't know that Korean media is far more horrid than CNN is, with its arrow pointed directly the embassy here, and the Chinese government. Today on the well-known Korean website Naver, the top headline was something their Prime Minister said: “The Chinese's violent demonstrations have been a side blow to Koreans’ self-respect”, and at the same time Korean media are saying that the Korean public's anger toward the Chinese violence incident hasn't decreased in the slightest, and demanding that the troublemakers be arrested and dealt with judicially. My god, what kind of country is this? What will our future be like here? We don't dare tell our families back home in China, for fear they'll worry, so we can only comfort each other and warn each other not to go outside alone, to the extent of discussing putting our close friends on speed dial, in case anything happens we can immediately run over to save them, because we don't even trust the police.

  请你们给我们加油,给我们支持吧,有祖国和政府在,我们一定什么都不怕,也请你们转告自己在韩国的家人朋友,一定要注意安全啊。

  在首尔,27的奥运圣火虽然传递过去了,可是韩国国内却一片对中国的讨伐声.

  主要是针对所谓的中国留学生27号的”暴力示威”. 国人都知道,这是夸大其辞的东西. 当然我们的留学生中那天是出现了不够聪明的举动,也许是因为爱国激情的膨胀,有部分学生对ZD分子动了拳头.就是因为这个,给韩国媒体一个盼望已久的反华机会。还有,现场那些ZD分子,自己带来了改锥,扳手,石块等凶器,卻对着镜头说是中国学生袭击他们。最近,韩国新闻中不断播出那些“暴力镜头”和一些所谓的凶器证据,然后说我们的暴力严重影响了韩国国民的爱国自尊心。现在,韩国政府居然要求中国就此道歉。

Please rally behind us, show your support; with the motherland and the government behind us, we won't fear a thing. And please, tell your friends and family of yours in Korea, they must be careful!

In Seoul, even though the torch relay finished on the 27th, here all of Korea is still crusading against China.

It's mainly being aimed at Chinese students’ so-called “violent demonstrations” on the 27th. We all know this is being exaggerated. Of course we exchange students didn't make the smartest moves that day; maybe because patriotic fervor was surging, some students raised their fists toward the Free Tibetters. It was this that gave Korean media the chance they've long been waiting for, to turn anti-China. Also, the Free Tibetters who were there brought screwdrivers, wrenches, bricks and other weapons with them, then turned to the camera and said it was Chinese students who were attacking them. Recently, Korean news has been repeatedly showing these “violent shots” and so-called proof of weapons, and then saying our violence has seriously impacted the Korean people's patriotic pride. Now, the Korean government has gone so far as to demand China apologize for this.

  媒体,政府是一片讨伐的声音,韩国人民当然也对中国人的憎恨到达了极限。他们已经在网上公布了那天带头“闹事”的中国学生的姓名,学校,电话号码等资料。据说,很多中国学生现在手机都不敢开,因为总有人会打恐吓电话,或是乱骂。我们现在晚上都不敢出门,因为很难保证路上遇见韩国人,会挨打什么的。

  前一阵子就有韩国学生嘴里喊着“打的就是中国人”而故意把清州一个中国学生给打了。现在27号这么一闹,中国留学生在韩国真是处境太危险了。因为韩国人不像西方人那样,懂得人权,平等什么的,他们其实就是随便动拳头的莽夫。比如,在美国的中国人可以去CNN门口示威,只要有分寸,是合法的,美国人也不能怎么样。可是在韩国,这不可能。他们会野蛮的动用武力。27号,我们学校一个学生只是在ZD份子面前举起了国旗,就被警察当作闹事者制服了。所以,我们在韩国不能像在美国或者别的国家那样自由的争取权利和尊重。

  现在,韩国警方已经把几个留学生带走了,好像说要严惩。各个学校的学生会长和一些留学生负责人也遭到人生安全的恐吓。韩国人说要让中国人看看,他们也不是好惹的。还有人悬赏捉住我们带头的那几个留学生。我们只是出来留学的人,平时在韩国受尽他们的鄙视和侮辱不说,就算是支援圣火传递的那一天,表达自己的爱国情绪,到最后都是这样的结果。这么一来,中国学生在韩国,只能越来越危险,越来越没有地位。

With crusading voices coming from the media and government, the Korean people's hatred toward the Chinese people has of course reached its peak. They've already put the name, campus, phone number and other information belonging to the Chinese students at the forefront of “the troublemaking” that day online. People are saying that a lot of the Chinese students won't even turn on their phones now, because people keep making threatening phone calls, or just start swearing at them. We're afraid to go out at night now, because we can't be sure that any Koreans we pass by won't start beating us or whatever.

Just a while back Korean students kept saying “it's the Chinese who are beating people”, but then went out themselves and beat up one Chinese student in Cheongju. Since the ruckus on the 27th, Chinese exchange students in Korea are in a really dangerous spot. Koreans aren't like Westerners, who understand what human rights and equality, etc. are. Koreans are actually just boors who will strike out at any time. For example, Chinese in the US can go demonstrate at CNN's front door, and as long as it stays within limits it's legal, and Americans can't do anything about it. But in Korea, this would be impossible. They would barbarically turn to violence. On the 27th, one student from our campus only so much as raised a flag in front of one Free Tibetter and was then held down by police, saying s/he was an instigator. This is why we here in Korea can't freely fight for our rights or respect like those in America or other countries.

Now, Korean police have already taken away several exchange students, who it looks like are going to be penalized. Every student society president at every campus and several exchange student organizers have all received threats to their safety. Koreans are saying they're going to show the Chinese people that they are not to be messed around with. Then there are people putting out rewards for whoever catches the few of us who organized this. We're just here as exchange students. Most of the time when we're faced with discrimination and insults from the Koreans, we keep quiet, and now because of that one day we went to show our support for the Sacred Torch Relay, and express our patriotic sentiments, this is how it turns out. If things go on as they are, Chinese students in Korea will only be in more and more danger, with less and less to hold onto.

  我是女生,也许还稍微好一点。我想提醒在韩国所有的留学生们,尤其是男生。在晚上或者是中国人少的地方,一定要保护自己的安全,不要随便的和韩国人发生冲突,否则,受伤害的只有我们。韩国的中国大使馆门口现在已经每天都被韩国示威的人们包围了。使馆的人们也很危险。但是,中国一定不能道歉。我们正当爱国,我们没有错,凭什么道歉????大使馆要是不能保护留学生的安全,以后还有谁敢在国外爱国???

(PS:今天看到咱们在海外求学的同胞被韩国人打破头的照片,才明白真相,韩国媒体真他妈的比CNN还要CNN!!!那个畜生不如的混蛋不抢我国旗,撕我国旗,我们在海外求学的同胞怎么可能去和他冲突!!靠!!这世界还有没公道!!!)

I'm female btw, so I might be a bit better off. I just want to warn all exchange students here in Korea, especially the men. At night or in places where there aren't many Chinese, you have to look out for your own safety. Don't go around getting into conflicts with Koreans, or else the ones who will get hurt will be us. Every day now the front door to the Chinese embassy here is surrounded by Korean protesters, putting the embassy people themselves in danger. But, China will definitely not apologize. We were justified in showing our love for our country, and we didn't do anything wrong, so what should we be apologizing for???? If the embassy proves unable to protect the safety of us exchange students, then who will dare showing their love for country while overseas???

(PS: Today I saw the pictures of our compatriots studying abroad after having been beaten by the Koreans, and then I understood the truth. Korean media, you're more fracking CNN than CNN itself!!! If those SOB beasts hadn't gone grabbing at our flags, ripping our flags, then our compatriots studying overseas wouldn't have clashed with them!! Frack!! Is there no justice on this earth??!)

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在Youtube上引起轰动的一段中国留学生殴打韩国抗议者视频:

This video clip on YouTube of Chinese students beating Korean protesters has created a stir:

发表时间:2008-05-2
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Posted: 2008-05-2
Link to this post: Chinese students in Korea cry foul: The Koreans have gone crazy! (video)
Keywords: Exchange students, Korea, video, beatings
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And a portion of the comments on River Crab‘s post:

1.

yesdo 2008-05-2, 8:28 am

脑残狼孩

Retarded wolf-child

2.

sttony 2008-05-2, 9:32 am

如果突然有一天韩国的上万大学生突然在北京示威游行,并且对占少数的中国示威者施加暴力。我们对韩国人的影响将会如何?不过这个假设的前提条件不成立,在北京示威游行是不可能通过“有关部门”批准的。

If suddenly one day ten thousand or more Korean university students suddenly started protesting in Beijing, and employed violence against a minority of Chinese demonstrators, what would our response to those Koreans be? Although, the conditions for this assumption don't hold up; a demonstration in Beijing would never be approved by “the relevant departments.”

3.

xxoo 2008-05-2, 9:35 am

难以用语言形容

I'm at a loss for words.

4.

路过 2008-05-2, 9:36 am

没救了

This is beyond hope.

5.

夜彷徨 2008-05-2, 10:24 am

首先27日在韩国的圣火传递过程 在国内报道了吗
为什么几天后才浮出水面
在终点的宾馆里 确实有国人动手打人 还被人拍下证据了就不要不承认 那是在韩国 有韩国的法规 韩国*文明用语*也要有他自己的威信 不可能欺负到自己头上了还憋屈着
这事闹大了会不会再来个抵制韩国货……

PS:韩国的朋友要小心了 注意安全;有国外媒体职责中国没有道歉(不过貌似说要去看望);韩国好像没有直播那天的圣火传递
媒体都有自己的立场 同一个事实报道不同的侧面而已 不是全世界的电视台都为中国服务 报道些你看不顺眼的就抗议是很不明智的

First off, was the Korean leg of the torch relay on the 27th reported upon by domestic media?
Why is this coming out only now, several days later?
At the hotel at the end, there were definitely our people hitting others, proof of this was even caught on film so don't bother trying to deny it. This was in Korea, Korea has its own laws. Korea's ‘diplomatic language’ also needs to carry authority. You can't go around bullying people then get bent out of shape when it comes to bite you back.
If this gets too big, do you think there'll be a ‘boycott Korea'……?

PS: Korean friends, be careful. Watch your safety. Foreign media are blaming China for not apologizing (though it seems they've said this will be looked into); Korea I think didn't do a live broadcast of that day's torch relay.
Media all have their own positions; one truthful report has different sides to it, that's all. It's not like the whole world's television stations exist to serve China. To protest something just because you don't like the look of it isn't very bright.

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警惕 2008-05-2, 10:39 am

你们活该!说什么韩国是资本主义国家,一看就是被洗脑的一群!中国是什么样的国家?自己国家一大堆问题你们敢出来游行吗?跑到别的国家去游行又不知道理性的表达自己的意见,别人发表不同意见,你们像当年的红卫兵一样上去暴打,目无人家的法律,现在尝到滋味了,像文革是一样,无脑子的青年人是被zg利用够了就抛弃的一群,还是去向你们的主子求救吧,看他们会救你们?!

You deserve it! What is this, ‘Korea is a capitalist country'? One look and I can tell the bunch of you have been brainwashed! What kind of country is China then? With all the problems your own country has, do you still dare come out and protest? No, you run off to protest in other countries and you don't even know how to rationally express your opinions. Others express differing opinions and you all start beating people like you were Red Guards, ignoring the laws of another country. Now you're getting a taste of them, and just like during the Cultural Revolution, the brainless youth now that they've been used by the CCP, the bunch are being cast aside. Sure, run to your masters for help now, see if they'll save you!!

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朝南生 2008-05-2, 10:56 am

视频刚开始的部分能够听见一个人理性的声音——不要打人
之后就是一群人在打人后吼出的爱国的声音——道歉
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额滴亲娘啊!那些举着国旗的就是我传说中的同胞吗?

Right when the clip starts you can hear one rational voice: ‘don't hit people’
Then as the pack starts hitting people and the ‘love China’ voices roar you hear a: ‘sorry’
……..
My mother! Are those people waving the national flag my compatriots of legend?

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呦 2008-05-2, 11:03 am

楼上说得好!

不知道那些留学生们,有几个是完完全全的评自己的学习成绩出国留学的?!

不知道那些留学生们,有多少父母是官员阶层(以为人民服务的名义敛财阶层)?又有多少父母是富甲一方(官商勾结聚财阶层)?还有多少背后有着丰富着社会背景(狗仗人势阶层)??

留学生中,有没有父母是贫下中农的?有没有父母是下岗职工的?!哪一个留学生涯,不是靠钱堆砌起来的?!

中国腐败的官员草菅人命的时候,他们怎么没有*文明用语*?城管打死人像打死一条狗一样随意,怎么没有见他们抗议抵制?!!

这些留学生们,倒地是什么样的一群人???!!

You're right!
I just wonder how many of those students were able to go study abroad based totally on their academic achievements!!
I just wonder how many of those students have parents who are high officials (“making” their money in the name of ‘serving the people’)? And how many of them just have rich parents (the kind rolling in money from government contracts)? And how many of them have stacked social backgrounds (like pitbulls with friends in high places)??

Of these exchange students, how many come from poor farmer families? Do any of them have parents laid-off or unemployed?! Which of these students won't have a career path paved with cash?!
While China's corrupt officials go trampling over lives, where is their “diplomatic language”? The Chengguan beat people to death like they're dogs, and with impunity, so why don't we see them protesting or boycotting then?!!
These overseas students, just what kind of a bunch of people are they???!!

9.

poshi 2008-05-2, 11:22 am

不说谁对谁错了,就觉得那些韩国人变脸怎么这么快,太让人心酸了。
而且…如果说中国人要冷静,那种情况下能冷静吗?那些韩国人直接说你们中国人是杂种,说完了还要说你讲话没素质,如果你是李小龙你把他打扒了还更说不清楚了,人家就说你是暴民。那我们要怎么做?人家指着你的头说你国家的人都是杂种,要怎么冷静?

Never mind who's right and who's wrong, I just feel those Koreans changed face so quickly, it really sours the heart.
And…if you say Chinese people need to calm down, can one calm down in conditions like those? Those Koreans said flat-out that we Chinese are inbreds? Once they finish saying that, they say we Chinese don't speak with any civility. Even if you were Bruce Lee and knocked him flat, he'd just say you were a thug. So what are we supposed to do? People point you in the face and say your country's people are inbred, how can anyone stay calm?

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poshi 2008-05-2, 11:44 am

楼上有些人显然很冷静呀,觉得爱国就是因为共+产+党吗?那你不爱国你又是什么党?虽然说他们很不冷静,那你又何必这样呢?当事人跟旁观者是不一样的,你别忘了你是旁观者,就算你怎么说他们,你只是一个坐在旁边看热闹的人而已!

Some people commenting above are obviously quite calm, saying people are all ‘love the country’ because of the Com-mun-ist Party. So if you don't “love the country”, then what Party are you? Even though those people weren't being calm at all, why would you say that? There are those who are involved in this, and then there are observers. Don't forget, you're an observer, so no matter what you say to them, you're still only just a bystander watching the excitement, and that's it!

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死的蚊 2008-05-2, 12:20 pm

韩国人疯了?还是那群“中国留学生”疯了?!!

Koreans crazy? More like “Chinese overseas students” have gone crazy!!!

Coming next, voice-of-a-sensible-part-of-his-generation blogger He Caitou's response to Chinese college students in Korea's cry for help..

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  • 阿中

    对于其他国家我不发表意见
    但对于韩国人,我只对他们的色情电影感兴趣
    如日本人传承了中国的优良传统的话,那韩国人简直就接了把5000年的屎

  • […] Kennedy of Globalvoicesonline.org has posted an amusing look at a Chinese exchange troll, allegedly living here in Korea, who claims that Koreans are now persecuting Chinese students, the […]

  • R. Elgin

    Man, that is so much pure nonsense coming from an alleged Chinese woman in Korea. Here, we haven’t heard a single word of any Chinese getting harassed here yet; it’s not mentioned on any site or TV, no word from people out in the street, yet this freak claims all this is going on.

    Wow . . .

  • @R. Elgin:
    Interesting. Say what she claims is going on, though, how much of it do you think you’d hear about? Assuming you’ve tapped into the Chinese community there, is it like she says, that Chinese students have gone from being generally quiet before April 27, back to quiet/withdrawn now? Or has ‘April 27’ carried on with Chinese dorms now covered in CCP flags, arguments on campuses, etc.?

    Just in case you or anyone else is wondering, I did stop and check that this one story is in fact something that is getting heavy play in many places across Chinese net-space.

  • Cam

    Thank you Chinese people who commented here. I’m in Korea and saw both the video footage and netizen reaction both in Korean and Chinese. I despaired at the ignorant, knee-jerk reactions on both sides in the media and online. Fortunately I saw your rational comments here, and it gives me hope. Thank you.

  • […] an interesting report on the Global Voices website – apparently there has been a backlash against Chinese students in Korea, following the […]

  • Knights

    There are always extremes on both sides which should be dealt with FAIRLY according to local laws .

    SO if this is true, I am LOL, we get punished just because we wave red flags and welcome the torch?????? If this is the case, what is democracy????????????????? I thought we can have different voices in democracy society?????? NO???!!!!!!!!!

  • Tiger

    China should help ALL the North Koreans pass through to go to South Korea then bill the ROK government and its taxpayers the costs. Watch the S. Koreans’ comfortable middle class lifestyle disrupted as they squirm and complain about higher unemployment and higher taxes when the ROK government imposes a “solidairty/unification tax” similar to what West Germany did after the fall of East Germany to pay for food and oil. Then watch S. Koreans dissing the N. Koreans immigrants as violent, uncouth and dumb. S. Koreans should be grateful that China is keeping the flow of refugees to S. Korea manageable and easier to absorb. China can just as easily open the floodgate. Besides last time I was in Beijing there are equally alot of Koreans living there and less they too become hostages to public sentiment, S. Koreans should learn to be more discerning, become more rational and less prone to violence like the peace loving Japanese people.

  • Kai

    @ Knights:

    Wow, I’m speechless. You’ve got to be kidding me. Are you intentionally being–for lack of a better word–stupid?

    Where in the above post does it say Chinese people are being punished simply for waving red flags and welcoming the torch? It says some violent Chinese people in Korea are potentially being legally punished for physically assaulting other people. You do understand that physical assault and violence is not generally legal in democratic societies, right?

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