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China: Different Voices on the Upcoming Talk with Dalai Lama

The state-run Xinhua news agency reported Friday that “in view of the requests repeatedly made by the Dalai side for resuming talks, the relevant department of the central government will have contact and consultation with Dalai private representative in the coming days.”

The report which was promptly copied by China's portal websites provoked another new round of discussion and controversy on Dalai Lama among the Chinese netizens.

In Sohu.com, within a few hours more than 8000 people have made comments on the news:

作者:江西省网友
发表于:2008-04-25 16:17:19
拿出点骨气来!!要谈也到奥运后,这个时候偏不理睬他!!!

Author:netizen from Jiangxi Province
Posted on:2008-04-25 16:17:19
Stand up for yourself a bit!!Put off the talk until the end of the Olympics, if at all. Just ignore him at present!!!

作者:北京市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 17:50:18
可以对话,主权问题绝不容妥协!!!

Author:netizen from Beijing
Posted on:2008-04-25 17:50:18
It's OK to hold a dialog, but never compromise on the issues concerning state sovereignty!!!

作者:深圳市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 18:16:31
支持谈,都是中国人,当然可以谈.只要在我们的原则在,他们可以来道歉.承认错误,可以给他们个机会.

Author:netizen from Shenzhen
Posted on:2008-04-25 18:16:31
Support for the dialog. Because we are all Chinese, we can certainly have a talk with each other. On the premise of our principle, we can give them a chance to apologize and admit their error.

作者:温州市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 18:29:56
维护统一,反对对话,反对妥协,反对让步,坚决打击达赖集团

Author:netizen from Wenzhou
Posted on:2008-04-25 18:29:56
Safeguarding unity, opposing dialog, opposing compromise, opposing concessions, the Dalai Clique should be resolutely cracked down.

作者:常德市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 19:42:55
沟通可以,磋商也行,但只能在祖国的土地上。

Author:netizen from Changde
Posted on:2008-04-25 19:42:55
It's OK to have a talk or consultation with him, but it can only take place on the motherland.

作者:北京市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 21:47:54
向巴平措回忆2002年接待达赖代表说道:至于我们同达赖谈什么,主权问题不容谈,这是铁板钉钉的;人权问题,达赖没有资格谈。达赖主政的时候,西藏人权是个什么样子,大家都清楚。要谈,就谈达赖的前途,这是我个人的看法。
支持支持支持支持支持支持!!!!!!

Author:netizen from Beijing
Posted on:2008-04-25 21:47:54
When Qiangba Puncog recalled the moment that he met Dalai's representative in 2002, he said: as to what we would talk with Dalai, it's clear that the question of sovereignty is not open to discussion. Dalai has no right to talk about human rights. The human rights situation in Tibet under Dalai's rule is apparent to everyone. My personal opinion is if there is a dialog, the only topic is Dalai's future.
Support!Support! Support! Support! Support! Support!

作者:唐山市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:13:06
对话总比对抗强!希望双方都进一步妥协,49年了,亲兄弟有什么隔阂也应坐下心平气和的对话,希望达赖喇嘛尽早重返拉萨。全国名族大团结万岁!

Author:netizen from Tangshan
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:13:06
Dialog is always better than confrontation! Hope the both sides can further compromise with each other. It has been 49 years and no matter how serious the estrangement is, brothers must sit down and have a calm and sensible talk. Hope Dalai Lama can return Lhasa as soon as possible. Long live the great unity of the Chinese nation!

作者:美国网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:58:52
对话是解决问题的最佳途径,对少数民族我们更要放下身段好好谈一谈,这样就有利于民族和解。达赖公开宣称自己是中国人,而且告诉藏人要以北京奥运为荣,我们至少要肯定他这一点。与达赖对话是中央政府成熟、明智、自信的表现。
肖吾省

Author:netizen from US
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:58:52
Dialog is the best way to solve problems. For the promotion of National Reconciliation, we must get off our high horse so as to have a good talk with the minority people. Dalai has openly proclaimed he is a Chinese and told the Tibetans to take pride in Beijing Olympics, so we should at least approve him at this point. Talking with Dalai shows the maturity, wisdom and confidence of the central government.
Xiao Wuxing

作者:西安市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:59:56
政府这样做是对的!一味的强硬态度对双方都不好.毕竟藏族是个几乎全民信教的民族,而达籁拉嘛又是众多信众的精神领袖.在维护国家统一,主权完整,废除奴隶制,保持社会安定,保护和发展民生福祉的前提下,听取不同的声音和要求,是负责任政府的表现.
不论是什么民族,不论是什么人,只要是认同中华大家庭,我们就要想法子去争取他!
祝中华民族和睦团结!祝中央之国早日一统!

Author:netizen from Xian
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:59:56
It's right for the government to do so! A rigid attitude benefits neither side; After all, Tibetans are mainly religious people and Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of most of them. On the premise of national unity, sovereignty integrity, abolition of slavery, social stability and preservation and development of people's livelihood, it's responsible for the government to listen to the different voices and demands.
No matter which people, no matter who, as long as he identify with multi-ethnic family of China, we will try to win him over!
Wish the Chinese nation fraternal unity!Wish that the complete reunification of China can be achieved at an early date!

作者:无锡市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 07:58:34
谈不妥的,我可以断定,达赖是不会放弃自己的立场的。打达赖就得像打狗一样,把他打得摇尾怜。

Author:netizen from Wuxi
Posted on:2008-04-26 07:58:34
I bet the negotiations will break down, because Dalai will not renounce his stand. We need to beat Dalai like a dog until he grovels before us.

作者:广州市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:37:45
这是中央政府在向西方社会妥协,是在向欧美妥协,软弱的中央政府!!!达赖必须承认一个中国,不分裂才能谈!

Author:netizen from Guangzhou
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:37:45
The central government is appearing to bend to the western world; it's a concession to Europe and America; how weak the central government is!!!Dalai must firstly acknowledge the One-China Principle and stop activities to split motherland before the talk.

作者:加拿大网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:39:33
一直不知道达赖是什么想法?他的政治主张是什么?中央政府应该让人民知道。分裂祖国是不得人心的,政治清明我们也关注!

Author:netizen from Canada
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:39:33
People don't know Dalai Lama's views?What are his political opinions? The central government must let people know that. Splitting motherland is unpopular, but we also concern the political probity!

作者:河池市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:47:18
达赖已是法国人,反对同其商谈。

Author:netizen from Hechi
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:47:18
Dalai has become French. Oppose talking with him.

作者:淄博市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:57:18
与其磋商也要其承担刑事责任,他教唆他的喽罗们杀了那么多人,给国家造成那么大的损失,不能就这么算了。一定要将达赖之流绳之以法。不杀达赖不足以平民愤!

Author:netizen from Zibo
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:57:18
Dalai shall be prosecuted for his criminal liability even we accept to consult with him. He has abetted his underlings to kill so many people, causing such great damage to the state. We can't let it go at that. Fellows like Dalai must be brought to the justice. Dalai has to be executed to assuage the people's anger!

Netease blogger Zhi Kuanyou also gave an immediate response to the unexpected news:

今晚我注意到了一条消息:
中央政府有关部门准备同达赖方面磋商。

更让我纳闷的是,在网易发布这条消息的时候,竟然一条网语的评语都没有,看来是没有勇气面对全国的国民呀。在此之前,我们的中央政府把达赖批得体无完肤,魔鬼一个,引得我们可爱的国民喊杀一片。现在我们的中央政府却要和达赖磋商了,太让人哭笑不得了。

更为客气的是,前些时候我写有关达赖的短文不得不用DL来代替达赖,否则我的博客根本通不过网络警察的审查,其实我也就完整地转述达赖近期在国外对媒体发表的看法,就是这样也很不容易通过审查呀。

我们老是说西方媒体的不公正给中国人民造成了伤害,试问我们的媒体又给达赖多少公正呢?

可喜的是,中国政府正朝着正确的方向了望了。

This evening I noticed a piece of news:
The relevant department of the central government will have contact and consultation with Dalai side.
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What made me disconsolate was when Netease published the report, not a comment was visible after the news. It looks the government doesn't have courage to face the whole nation. Before that, our central government had criticized Dalai to shreds and devil, provoking a tide of battle-cry against him from our lovely people. Now our central government is going to consult with Dalai. It's really ironic.
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Earlier, what annoyed me more was I had to use DL instead of Dailai when I wrote something about him, otherwise my blog would not pass the Internet police's censorship at all. In fact, I just completely retold some of Dalai's recent airing views in the foreign media, but even so, it's still very difficult to pass the censorship.
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We always keep criticizing the western media's injustice which has harmed Chinese people, but how much justice have our media given Dalai?
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The good thing is Chinese government is heading in the right direction.

116 comments

  • Ur Chinese friend

    Dalai’s main strategy to further his agenda was through non-violent protests. What’s happening now is that the pro-Tibet protesters are outnumbered by pro-China protesters around the world. The Pro-Tibetan protesters also are having problems containing their violent outbursts.

    Now it’s a good time for China to talk with Dalai, but the question is whether Dalai has enough influence over Tibetan Independent folks. I also wonder just how can Dalai stop the so called “cultural genocide” which seems to be Dalai’s number one issue nowadays. Even if the Chinese government restricts Han immigration into Tibet, Tibet will be modernized regardless. The presumed Han discrimination and income disparity will also continue as long as Tibetans refuse to learn mandarin or start their own businesses.

  • Kai

    Excellent. If it happens, it’ll definitely be a step in the right direction. Here’s to hoping both sides can learn to face reality, learn some humility, and try to compromise for a better future for all involved.

  • Knights

    UR Chinese friend says it well.
    I am not against China to talk with Dalai. If he cares about tibetans, he should think for their best interest to learn mandarin and go toward modernization. We Chinese come to the U.S., we have to learn to speak English in order to make a good living. It applies to tibetans as well.

  • subjectivelistener

    I think it is a smart move.

    In fact, I would even suggest Chinese government to invite Dalai Lama to join the opening ceremony of Olympic games.

    Why? Because, Dalai Lama claimed that he supports the games. Also, if Dalai Lama agrees to attend, those western politicians have no more leverage to say boycotting any more.

    In the international politics, you will be in control of situation if you dont follow the routines. It will break the glasses of those Sinophobers.

  • cerebus

    Very good. I share Kai’s wishes.

    I wonder if mediation will be considered, and if so, who would China accept in such a position? When talks begin in earnest they should be open to scrutiny. There’s too much distrust.

    Some news reports cite external pressure as motivation for this positive development, but I believe the incredible number of moderate, rational and peaceful Chinese people whom I have encountered, both online and offline, played the most significant role. I have immense hope for China, and it’s inevitable future role in the world because of this, largely, unheard majority.

  • Laurence

    达赖的目的很明显也不会改变,他想重新获取西藏的统治权利,可惜对他来说,自从西藏解放之后一切就万劫不复了!

    政府和达赖谈,作为小市民我无从得知他们要谈论什么,至少我知道,这样的对话意义不大,最多只是给西方一个表态而已,其他的问题不没有什么可谈的,要达赖放弃他的目的绝对不可能,当然让政府对达赖让步,更是绝对不可能。

    作为国人,我觉得现在中国真的很棒。我从来没有对国家对政府有过什么愤愤不满,我工资不高是因为我个人能力的问题而不是政府打压了我,我没有信仰是因为我不要一个不存在的信仰来引导我,我会受到一些不公正的待遇是因为有些东西不完善也因为我没去争取,….,总之,我很少埋怨我的政府对我有什么不公正,尽管有些。

    作为一个中国人,我没有反对这个国家的理由,当然如果有人公然反对我的国家,他就是我们的敌人!

    从深层次上讲,政府和达赖的对话没有任何意义,唯一的目的就是做给西方看。

  • Peter Karhatsy

    Time has shown that China has evolved into a goverment as sinister as the rest of our “First” world goverments, controlling the media and it’s citzens like puppets to further their own agenda.

    I wish the rest of the world was as intolerant of imperialism as I am.

    USA out of IRAQ – Let them work out their own freedom now, we got them started.

    China out of the COUNTRY of TIBET – Tibetan culture is a global asset, not an asian one. They have their own language, lifestyle and belief system.

    If the Chinese start going after a Christian nation next, things will be different.

    Does anyone care?

  • Nano

    @Peter Karhatsy> “USA out of IRAQ – Let them work out their own freedom now, we got them started.”

    What about non-native Americans out of USA and let the Red Indians have their own homeland?

    Do you actually care?

  • Peter Karhatsy

    Nano, that is not current events. Please try to stay focused. I understand that for every constructive comment, there must be an equally useless one, so thanks for that.

    Personally, if I could go back in time, I would warn every tribe. At least then it would’ve been a fair fight.

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