Kuwaiti blogger Frankom (Ar) writes an explosive post about what he thinks of homosexuals in his country and how to best deal with them, sparking a debate from readers about how his views are totally out of line.
قبل أن أبدأ فيما أود طرحه اليوم … سأثبت أنني عنصري من الدرجة الاولى !! نعم عنصري متشدد … لن أطرح مقال هذا أبيض أو أسود … ولن أقول هذا هندي أو صعيدي ! ليست هذه العنصرية التي أتحدث عنها ! بل سأتحدث عن فئة أخرى ظهرت لها جمعيات وأيدتها دول كبيرة … هناك حقوق وواجبات لهم ! بل لهم الحق في العيش على هذه الارض تماما كما نحن نفعل ! لا ليسوا مخلوقات غريبة ، فالمخلوقات الغريبة تنقس الى نوعين فقط … لا ثالث لهم أبدا
لا أريد أن أسبب مشاكل قومية من دول مجاورة أو صديقة ! ولا أريد أن أتطرق الى دول كانت تسمى بدول ضد والان هي دول صديقة … بل سأكون صارما فيما يحدث هنا بالكويت
Before I start discussing what I am about to talk about today.. I will prove to you that I am a racist of the first degree!! Yes, an extremist racist. I will not talk about black and white. I will not say this person is an Indian and the other is a villager from Egypt! This isn't the discrimination I am talking about. I will be talking about another group of people who now have societies and the backing of great countries. They actually have rights and duties! In fact, they have the right to live in this world just like the rest of us! No, they aren't weird species, because such species can be divided into two types and not three. I don't want to cause national problems with close and friendly countries! And I don't want to talk about countries which were considered ‘against’ and are now ‘friendly’ so I will be firm and talk about what is happening here in Kuwait.
يوم أمس توجهنا لتناول وجبة العشاء في أحد المطاعم كان في استقبالنا في ذلك المطعم الصغير أحد الاشخاص من دول شرق أسيا … كان “الترف” أو “الجنس” كما يحلو للبعض شخص غير ودود على عكس “الجنوس” من نفس جاليته وقبيلته في المطاعم الاخرى أو حتى في مراكز التسوق !
هذه الفئة أصبحت تجتاح الكويت عن بكرة أبيها … بل أصبحت الشركات الكبرى تعتمد عليها في التسويق والمبيعات ! ربما بسبب أجور العمالة المنخفضة !! ولكن وفي الجهة المقابلة هناك أسباب لابد من الوقوف عندها … عدد هذه الجالية أو هذه الفئة بدأ يزداد بشكل كبير جدا فمع كل مطعم ، كافيه ، نادي صحي ، مركز تسوق ، جمعية أو حتى العمالة المنزلية … لابد من أن تجدهم
Yesterday we went to a restaurant for dinner and were welcomed in that small place by someone from East Asia. That gay as some like to call them wasn't as friendly as the rest from his background we see in other restaurants and shopping complexes! This type seems to be overtaking Kuwait and in fact many of the big companies are depending on them for marketing and sales. Is it because of the their low salaries? Nevertheless, there are factors we need to reflect on because the number of those who fall within this category is increasing a lot as you are bond to see them in every restaurant, cafe, health club, shopping mall, supermarket and even among domestic helpers.
عدد صناّع الخمور وبيوت الدعارة بل حتى شقق الدعارة المنتشرة بين منطقة حولي والسالمية أصبح كبير ! عدد مدمني المخدرات منهم من يروج لشباب الكويت للفتك بهذا المجتمع كبير جدا ! عدد العصابات أصبح أكبر وأكبر … والان المصيبة الكبرى… عدد الشواذ الذي أصبح البعض من شباب هذا المجتمع يعتمد عليه في الجنس بسبب قلة الاسعار .. اصبح أخطر وأخطر
نسبة كبيرة منهم من يحمل مرض الايدز (والعياذ بالله) ونسبة أكبر تتمركز هنا في الكويت بدون حسيب أو رقيب ! … هل هم فقط من أريد التحدث عنها ؟ بالطبع لا
الفئة الاخرى من الشواذ هم أيضا اما كويتيون أو من فئة غير محددي الجنسية وأيضا هناك منهم جنسيات عربية أخرى تسعى للفتك بهذا المجتمع … مالحل ؟
The number of people who make alcohol from their homes and brothels is increasing in Hawalli and Salemiya areas! The number of drug addicts who are peddling drugs among Kuwaiti youth is huge as well! The number of gangsters is also getting bigger and bigger.. and now the problem is even greater .. as the numbers of gays increase many youth in this society depends on them for sex because they are cheaper. This is becoming more dangerous than ever because some of them carry the deadly AIDS virus and a large percentage of them have made Kuwait their base, where there is no one to put them in check. Are those the only ones I want to talk about? Of course not. There are other categories of gays who include Kuwaitis, those of unknown nationalities and some of Arab nationalities too, whose main aim is to prey on our society and break it apart. What is the solution?
Frankom offers three “solutions” which include banishing them from Kuwait to countries which tolerate homosexuality, sending them to police academies and the army .. or … check out the comments on the post to figure out for yourselves what his third option is.
“you guys sound ignorant.
I’m not gay, but you are acting as if it is a disease.
People don’t plan their life to become gay, they go through shit and end up this way, Allah yashfeehom.
About the remark about Philipinos, who would work at burgerking if you get rid of Philipinos? Kuwaities?
I seriously doubt it.
The hate and the ignorance, people.
Pray for guidness & recovery,” comments a reader who signed off as I'm Not Gay.
Blogger Judy Abbott chimes in:
oh my gosh why are you monsters here… tara some of them are seriously ill – hormonally.. and emotionally sick.. some of them actually fight not to be gays but they ends up being lonely .
No offense, but I noticed almost all of your “articles” are posts bloggers already posted about. And you seem to pick the ones that gives a negative view of the country. I mean, sure there’s the bad, but there’s the good as well. Also, why post something someone already posted!?
Thank you for your comment.
1. “No offense, but I noticed almost all of your “articles” are posts bloggers already posted about. Also, why post something someone already posted!?”
I clearly say that I have translated this article from a blog. Also, ALL the articles published in Global Voices Online ‘echo’ what the blogs are talking about. That is the whole point of the site.
2. “And you seem to pick the ones that gives a negative view of the country. I mean, sure there’s the bad, but there’s the good as well.”
I am sorry you feel this way…but if you have any suggestions for ‘good’ posts, please send them my way.
Thanks again for your comments.
oh, at least he still remain resonable…. althought i think he is kinda creepy himself… havent heard of the society of truth and light?!
I think he has a very valid point. I live in Kuwait myself and have noticed more than often the Philipino gays walking (not only working) around hand in hand as couples wearing all the female atire. I have seen Kuwaities too but never an Arab! now maybe I was unlucky but we are talking about what is forming a “tren” or a social change that everyone can notice. I cant see but Philipino gays, never seen Indians, Lebanese, or Egptians. Why his point is valid. We are not talking whether these people are sick and so they need treatment and sympath instead of attacking them. If they are sick, we sypathize as long as they are trying to deal with the “diseasë” not abusing a whole culture (which is Islamic and not sypathetic with one showing off their sins so how about visitors who come to work, and we all know what Kuwait is like, it is for the Kuwaities and no matter how many years you live in it, u are still a visitor. I am not kuwaiti by the way) I believe aside from ur calls to sypathize and pray for them, some serious action must be done “against” this move. For many reason really; First, I wouldnt want my son to see a gay couple eating next to us in a restaurant and act like it is normal. he will be confused and if he doesnt have the “disease” he might have it. Secondly, normal people feel disgusted about gays and lesbains sometimes and it is very normal and has nothing to do with being bias or not. we know what is normal and what is not. all sins are disgusting for normal people and not for cirminals. why we send cirminals to jail u think? why there is punishment? because they destory society..at least till now no procesure send a gay or a lesbain to jail for having “showed off ” about it! Third, these are visitors even if they are doing a job not done by kuwaities because kuwities are hypocrites as the implication might be by Frankom, yet it is the Kuwaitis country and the few incidents they reveal their homosexuality isnt forming a phenomenon like the Philipino is. and, there is not where else to send the kuwaities to, but why bring more of these especially that they are breaking a rule of Islam and eastern code of behavior. finally and most important, the topic isnt whether u sypathize with gays or not!