India: Dera Sacha Sauda and I

I, Me, Myself on the political angle to the Dera Sacha Sauda controversy, and a personal recollection. “Then, one day, while he was at the Dera premises, he was poisoned and his corpse delivered home in a tractor-trolley on the next. The father, the devout follower that he was, refused to file a case of murder with the police and also forbade the rest of the family from doing so.”

234 comments

  • vaibhav

    i think one should not make any opinion about sidhusaheeb
    case without hearing the other party’s points.
    he is cooking his own stuff in any way he likes.
    I think it is his publicity stunt.
    Had his case been solid(if yes actually),he should have moved to court.
    Its very very easy blaming anybody in this democratic scenario.
    Come on man , don’t cook such non proving stuffs otherwise any intellectual will laugh at you only.

  • Amit Insaan

    hi all,
    may god bless u,who wrote bad thing about DSS because u dont know the greatness of Dera Sacha Sauda Sirsa.

    But in future u all we see,

    “Saare Jahan Mein Hoga Ek Hi Naam
    Shah Satnam, Shah Satnam…………”

  • vaibhav

    A lot has been said and i think now we should stop this issueless chapter.

  • HI ALL,
    GURU…………..
    GU….MEANS DARKNESS
    RU….MEANS LIGHT
    GURU….A PERSON (WHO HIMSELF AWAY FROM ALL EVILS) CAN SHOW THE WAY FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT.

    RAM……
    A PERSON WHO IS ABLE TO MAINTAIN MARYADA (MARYADA PARSHOTAM RAM)

    RAHIM…….

    AS PER MUSLIM COMMUNITY ……A PERSON WHO IS HAVING SOFT CORNER OF HEART (REHAM DIL)

    SINGH…..

    YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE SIKHISM (AWAY FROM FEAR, TEMPTATION ETC….). ONLY GURU IN SIKHISM IS SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI ( SAB SIKHAN KO HUKAM HAI GURU MANYO GRANTH)

    NOW THE QUESTION……IS GURMEET SINGH FOLLOWS SIKHISM…….? NOT AT ALL.

    SO HE HAS NO RIGHT TO WRITE AFTER HIS NAME “SINGH”

    I THINK HE IS INSULTING SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI
    KABIR SAAKAT ( WORLDLY PERSON, DEHDHAARI GURU) SANG NA KIJIAY DOORON JAYEEAY BHAAG

    THINK……..THINK……….AGAIN THINK

    AM I RIGHT ?

  • shefali Kumar

    DERA is a pious institution. I wonder how some people who have no idea about santmat draw wrong conclusion about DERA and PITAJI. Santmat is beyond understanding human brain. It is based on pure love of almighty.

  • Rana

    I fail to understand that if religion, especially the different faiths and sects are ways of reaching the Lord, then why does it lead to creating hatred and even bloodshed. In the Dera controversy, everybody has lost. I now have a bigger belief that religion as long as it remains in the hands of vested interests, would always act as a tool to blind the people from the real issues of equality and justice.

    The Dera chief must tell the people that if he is truly religious or saintly as projected by his followers, where is the harm in offering an apology if anybody felt hurt by his actions. Why is he being obstinate.

    On the other side the leaders of the Sikhs, must clarify why they feel so threatened by a mortal. Are the foundations of a faith built on unprecedented sacrifices, especially by the Sarbansdani Guru Gobind Singh, so weak that some remote Baba can shake them. How would they explain those unsheathed swords, when Guru Nanak Dev ji, would hold his court.

  • Amit Insaan

    Hi All,
    i want to introduce something here,Shri Akal Takhat is not have high importance than ‘Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’,think if Guru ji of Dera felt sorry from ‘Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji,then contorversy should be stop here,but it is given political colour by someone.

    Think,Think, Think………….

    The message “Hindu,Muslim,Sikh,Issai sub ek hi malik ke
    Bande hai” is given in Dera Sacha Sauda Sirsa.

  • vaibhav

    Well hi all
    I want to tell Mr. Rana that dera has already expressed its
    apology to Shri guru Gobind singh ji(the founder of pious sikh religion).when he has apologised to the highest power so now whole issue must settle down .but still its flaming.this shows that there is something more to this issue. actually this subject is being blown out of proportion .the point is that this is just a way to ignite hatred against the increasing popularity and growth of dera.i don’t understand why some people are creating hurdles in the path of pious mission of dera ?
    probably the teachings of dera are reducing their BUISNESS(that is carried out by taking donations in the name of god).
    i am happy that you have agreed to point that real issues of religion are equality , justice ,etc. I hope you have gone through the idea and ideals of dera.It always respects the ideas you mentioned .

  • vaibhav

    DERA PREMIS ARE BEING DENIED THEIR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS IN PUNJAB
    through this section i want to draw your attention towards the difficulties being faced by premis in following their religion.some anti social sikhs are threatening premis by showing their weapons .when dera premis are conducting their regular kiirtan they are not allowed to do so by anti social sikhs.they are being threatened that they will be killed if they dokn’t stop going to dera.the administration doesn’t take any action against them due to the govt. pressure.
    as far as i know that it is the FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT OF EVERY CITIZEN OF INDIAN REPUBLIC TO WORSHIP ANY RELIGION OF HIS CHOICE.
    i want to ask the human right commission and minority right commkission that why is it sleeping over this
    issue?
    why is it not taking any action? probably due to fear of govt..
    does sikh religion teaches and powers such sikhs to act in that manner?
    i don’t think this is written in any religeous text of any religion that you can forbid anybody from following his religion.
    then why is this being let happen openly in punjab?
    are all the so called intellectuals deaf and blind to all this?
    i want to say to anti socials that my dear friends please don’t pollute the sikhism by such nasty doings.
    please don’t insult your religion.
    please don’t insult your the founders of religion.

  • Rana

    Thanks Vaibhav,

    I would suggest you to read my post once again. If you could reply to the basic question I have raised in the first paragraph.

    Secondly, the Chief of the Dera has apologised to Guru Gobind Singh. But actually the protest is from the Guru’s followers, who have expressed their hurt. Though one may not agree with the form of protest at many places. Brandishing unsheathed swords has no place in a democratic society.

    Why could the Chief of the Dera not devise means to assuage the hurt caused to the Sikh community, by some action of his howsoever unintentional it may be. If in a crowded bus you step on the toe of a co-passenger, whom would you go an apaologise to? The person you have hurt or the company which built the bus?

    Also would you justify the Political Affairs Wing of the Dera issuing a diktat to the Premis to vote for a particular party. Does it not infringe the basic Right for Franchise guaranteed by the Constitution of India? Why should a religious organisation take sides in partisan electoral politics?

    I have gone through the 47 principles that the Dera advocates. Tell me one principle to which that party adheres to. Do the members of that party not consume alcohol or meat? Dont they use surnames? Dont they practice dowry? Have they never discriminated against or expolited women? Dont they indulge in corruption, nepotism and favortism? You may place all the 47 before you and inform me and others about a single principle, which that party follows.

    I am sure you would counter it by citing the example of the misuse of the SGPC funds and infrastructure by another political party. My question is – do two wrongs make a right?

    Moreover you need to brush up your history lessons. The Sikh religion was founded by Guru Nanak Devji and not Guru Gobind Singh. That is why I referred to the Court of Guru Nanak Devji in my last para of the previous post.

    You must also keep in mind the liberal Punjabi tradition, which has not only granted space to the Dera to flourish, but has welcomed other faiths, including the various shades of Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, Islam, Sikhism, Christianity, Arya Samaj, Bramho Samaj, Radha Soami, Namdhari and various other Deras. The list goes on.

    A few people on either side, the Dera Sacha Sauda and the hardline Sikhs, are unnecessarily holding the entire Punjab to ransom. The people of the Punjab have already paid a very heavy price during the era of terrorism, which was inflicted upon them. They cannot afford to suffer allow another misadventure, created by somebody else.

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