Algeria: The Great Libyan Shia Plan

Qaddafi called recently for the creation of a neo-Fatimid empire in North Africa that would be “Arab and Shiite”, for “North Africa is Arab and Shi'ite,” reports Algerian blogger Nouri. “Obviously the Fatimids were of Arab origin, and not Iranian; the Iranians came to Shiism far later than did the Arabs, and even then only by force of arms by way of Turks. This does not change the fact that Shias are few and far between in North Africa today. And it very clearly does not mean that North Africans are “100%” Arabo-Shia. The Maghreb is not Basra,” he notes.

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  • Mohammad Ashraf

    I am visiting Algiers next week, will stay in Capital. Kindly, help me to find the Shia Muslims CENTER and contact No. of the religious scholars. I would like to buy reading material too on the subject of Shiaism in the Northern Africa. Dr. Tijani Samavi is a renowned converted Shia Scholar/Writer currently staying in Detroit USA. He has written marvalous books on the right path of Islam i.e. Shia Fiqh.
    Wasalam Alaikum

    • ateeq

      We are all muslims but have differences in issues regarding the religion. The best way to overcome the issues is to know about eachother from the sacred books and asking the people of the faith. If we keep searching about a faith from someone who is against that faith then we are getting the wrong information. Shia muslims respect and talk to their sunni brothers and get involved in reasearch. If any1 keen to know about the shia’s then they should read the books of Dr Tijani Samawi who converted to shia’s islam from sunni, he has analysed the two sects logically and based his research on reasoning.

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  • ABU BAKR G.(NASIR AALU AL BAYT,AL ASHAAB WA AHLU ASUNNAH)

    ASSALLAMU ALAIKUM!

    IN reply to the call of ignorant kadhafi for a neo-Fatimid state, 1st, does he know who are the Fatimids?
    Thia shows kadhafi did not go to school or was a drop out!!!!
    the fatimids lied and fooled the North Africans by claiming they are descendants of AHLU AL BAYT,according to Ibnu Taymiya (radhiya allahu an’hu wa rahimah)”the Fatimids are FROM JEWISH ORIGINS”, ISMAILITES, SHIA, WITH A AQEEDAH OF SHIRK , KUFR,AND INNOVATIONS, FAR AWAY FROM TRUS ISLAM: THEY ARE “KUFFAR”!!!!
    One of their leader, so-called” al hakim bi amri allah”
    forced people to make “sujood’ to him and claimed arrogantly: “I am God/Allah”!!!!

    SHEIKH AL ISLAAM MOHAMMED TAHAT BEN ASHOOR,SHEIKH JAAMI’E AZZAYTOUNA SAID:about BANI UBAYD STATE: FATIMIDS:


    فإن بلاد إفريقية وتونس عرفت السنة والنور النبوي الرباني مع بداية الفتح الإسلامي الأول، لكنها بعد رَدْح من الزمن غالبتها البدعة وتكدر نورها وسنا العلم فيها على أيدي الملاحدة الزنادقة في دولة بني عُبيد الشيعية، حيث حملوا الناس على التشيع وسب الصحابة، والابتداع في الدين؛ فتصدى لهم العلماء النطاسيون، وأكابر أهل العلم الربانيين في هاتيك البلاد وما حولها.. فأصدروا الفتاوى والبيانات على كفر بني عُبيد وردتهم عن الدين، وأنه لا ولاية لهم، فتحمّل العلماء عبْء هذا، فقُتل الكثير، وشُرد الجمّ الغفير، ولكن الله يعز دينه ويعلي كلمته في كل زمان ومكان؛ فبادت دولة العبيديين وزالت، وتمكن أهل العلم من البلاد والعباد: ((كَذَلِكَ يَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الْحَقَّ وَالْبَاطِلَ فَأَمَّا الزَّبَدُ فَيَذْهَبُ جُفَاءً وَأَمَّا مَا يَنفَعُ النَّاسَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِي الأَرْضِ كَذَلِكَ يَضْرِبُ اللَّهُ الأَمْثَالَ)) [الرعد:17]al Oubain

    Bani Oubayd
    ولا يسعني هنا أن أسرد الوقائع والحوادث التاريخية، فدونك -أيها القارئ- كتب التاريخ المشهورة، كتاريخ ابن خلدون التونسي، وتاريخ الطبري، والكامل لابن الأثير، والبداية والنهاية لابن كثير، فقد أحلتك على مليء!
    ولِتَقِف على حوادث أهل العلم والفقهاء مع الدولة العبيدية الرافضية وما حصل لهم بسببها، عليك بكتاب المحن لعالم تونس في زمانه أبي العرب محمد بن أحمد التميمي المتوفى بالقيروان عام (333هـ)، وكتاب ترتيب المدارك وتقريب المسالك لمعرفة أعلام مذهب مالك؛ للقاضي عياض بن موسى اليحصبي المتوفى سنة (544هـ).
    وما زال العلماء رحمهم الله يتحملون الدفاع عن كتاب الله تعالى وسنة نبيه صلى الله عليه وسلم وشريعة الإسلام، شاهرين سيوف الحق السُّنية في وجه أهل الباطل والبدعة، مُجْلين الحق والصواب، مبينين سبيل أهل الغي والضلال الذين حادوا عن منهج الحق والصدق والعدل والإنصاف.

    MAJOOSY SAFAWY SHIISM TODAY IS THE WORST TERRORIST DANGER THAT THREATEHS THE EXISTENCE, SECURITY AND STABILITY OF SUNNI COUNTRIES!!!
    IT IS SPREADING SECRETELY IN NORTH AFRICA THRU ITS HIDDEN AGENTS WHO ARE WORKING IN THE UNDERGROUND!
    THESE AGENTS ARE:
    1.IRANIAN DIPLOMATS and their embassies
    2.students who studied in Iran (hawzate of qomm)who came back to n. Africa
    3.shiite professors, skilled labor members of communities
    from iran, Iraq, lebanon, syria
    4. shhite TV stations such as AL MANAR. AL ALAM, AL HUTIYA, ECT…..
    THE SAFAWY SHIITE “BOMB” IS BEING DEVELOPED NOW, ONCE IT EXPLODES, IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SUNNIS WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!

    SUNNIS WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!

    SUNNIS WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!

    UPRISE A NEW: “AL MOU’IZZ IBNU BADIS” IN NORTH AFRICANOW!!!!!!

    SAVE YOUR COUNTRIES FROM EVIL AND DANGERS OF SAFAWY SHIISME, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    INFORM YOUR GOVERNEMNTS,YOUR BOSSES, REPRESENTATIVES, IMAMS, ECT… NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE, DO NOT FALL IN TRAP OF SHIISM! ITS FOUDER IS A JEW FROM YEMEN CALLED ABDU ALLAH IBN SABA’E!!!!
    SHIISM IS ONE RELIGION, AND AHLU ASUNNAH IN ANOTHER RELIGION TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN SHIISM IN USOOL AND FOUROO’E

    TAKE ACTION, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • sayed zaheer

      Dear Brother

      What type of awakening are you asking for. one where a suicide bomber kills 100s everyday or one where women are treated like a second class citizen in the name of islam. my brothers and sisters to what ever firqah you belong to, is there a need to kill one another to prove that you are right. theres something called dialogue. if you feel that shiasm is wrong then why dont you let allah the almighty to decide our fate. do you think quran has asked you to murder his followers. shias never told that quran is incomplete. the sole reason why you have shown so much hatred is because your spiritual leaders have not told you the truth of shiasm or for that matter tolerance in islam. you need to first read the history, understand what shias do and why they do and only they spread this hatred.

      Thanks.

    • Zafar ul Islam

      Intresting discussions. But the future belongs to the West, not illogical tyrants.

  • Dear Abu Bakr,
    That comment cracked me up and made me laugh so hard.
    Tolerance my foot.
    What a bunch of losers!

  • Hassan Dawood

    Dear Abu Baker,

    You are an idiot who never went to school
    and love to spread rumors by saying lies
    about Shiisme just like 90% of your scholars.
    Stop being an idiot and learn what the Shia (Ahlel Al Bayt) is all about.

    Thank You

  • Dear brothers and sisters

    Salamun Alaikum.

    I think there is a fear about Shias and their beliefs.
    Instead of relying on hearsay and rumours why don’t
    people go to their websites to know actually what they are and when they came into being!!! Instead of calling one school of thought apostates or such things one must know what are their beliefs. I would suggest all my sisters and brothers to visit the following websites to ascertain beliefs of Shias so that it could be determined whether of not they are apostate or Kaafir
    http://www.Shiachat.com
    http://www.Azadari.com
    May Allah the Greatest guide all of us to the truest path!

  • SYED AQUEEL KAZIMI

    FAOUNDER OF SUNNI RELIGION WAS AMIR MUAWIYA A PAGAN WHO WITH THE HELP OF ABU HURAIRA A JEW(PAUL LEIWISE)CREATED SUNNI RELIGION LAFTER ON TWO FAMOUSE MAJOOSI PARSI IMAM ABU HANIFA AND IMAM BHUKHARIO HELPED THIS NEW RELIGION BY THEIR FALSE TRADITIONS,SUNNISM IS SEPERATE RELIGION FROM ISLAM AND ALL THEIR TRADITIONS ARE AGAINST QURAN,LIKE WUZU,TALAQ,NAMAZ TIMINGS,ETC,SUNNI`S ARE ACTUALLY A GROUP OF KUFFAR(ABUSUFYAN,MARWAN,MUAWIYA) WHO CONVERTED AFTER THE DEFEAT OF MAKKA AND BECAME MUNAFIQIN MUSLIM AT THE TIME OUR OUR BELOVED PROPHET PBUH AFTER THAT THE OPENLY DECLAIE THEIR SEPARET THOUGHTS WHICH WAS OPPOSSED BY ALI,HASSAN AND HUSSAIN RZNHM,ONLY SHIA ISLAM IS REAL ISLAM.

  • rahmad.....

    asalamu alykum. My Brothers, i think it’s not matter to gather the shia knowlege. Because it’s clear, the shia is the religion stablis by Iran people. And that is clear the Iran from the persian empire on earlier. And it is clear to the Shia is a new religion, and it’s more of doctrine of ther Iman. Ha ha. If you have a lot of knowlege. Pls….. Think about “why the shia believe that the Qur’an is not camplete?” “why allowing Mut’ah?” “why if shia preching is more doctrine than Qur’an word?” it’s clear evidance that shia, Give A big problem.

  • Mir Zama Hussain

    As Salaamu Alaikum wa Rehmatullah.

    My Dear Muslim Brothers and Sisters. I’m a Shia from India. I request my Sunni Brothers/Sisters to 1st understand what Shiaism is all about before commenting anything about it. Shiaism is the path of our Last Prophet of Islaam, Hazrath Muhammad Mustafa (sawaws) who left behind him two weighty things one is Al-Qur’aan and the second is Ahlul Bait (as). See Hadith e Saqlain. I’m sure any Muslim no matter what sect he belongs to, he/she will be convinced with the teachings of Muhammad wa Aale Muhammad (sawaws). Allah Knows Better.

  • Shibbir Ahmed

    Why there’s so much hatred between Shia & Sunni. As a Muslim we can not afford it. Why not love each other, help each other and be a true Muslim, a true follower of our Prophet(pbhm). We are bleeding- fighting each other leaving the true enemy aside.
    May Allah bless the Muslims.

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