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China: Don't anger the youth

Trolls with dozens of axes to grind, China's angry youth (愤青) are the single loudest and mobilized group on the internet in China. Nationalist, racist, sexist and more, they embody pretty much every ugly extreme to be found in contemporary China. While most rational netizens ignore them, their dominant online presence means they can't be avoided or discounted.

As seen in Frank Dai's post today, angry youth are not people you want on your back. Here's one recent example [zh], tame in comparison to the rabid castration, death and expulsion threats launched against last month's target, a British sexblogger based in Shanghai:


为什么外国人可以在广州横行无理—暴打中国人!

Why can foreigners run wild in Guangzhou, even violently attack Chinese?

今天,坐公交车经过西场时看见两个外国人正对一个拾荒者[中国人]拳打脚踢,把中国人打头破血流。。。。更加震惊的是旁边有个中国女人还在幸灾乐祸,哈哈大笑。。。。。!鲁迅说过;中国人最大的悲哀不是禺味,而是麻木不仁。。。。!!!

Today on the bus as we were passing Xichang I saw two foreigners in the midst of punching and kicking a (Chinese) dumpster diver, beat the Chinese until his head was bleeding….most shocking of all, there was a Chinese woman beside them watching with delight, laughing her head off…..! Lu Xun said, Chinese’ biggest sorrow isn't ignorance, but apathy….!!!

Superman Little Bro

请问一下,你当时在干什么?

Can I just ask what you were doing at the time?

Reborn Three Years

LZ就是旁边的中国女人?

Was the author the Chinese woman standing off to the side?

Kill The Ni**ers (杀死黑鬼)

这不单是拾荒者的不幸,这是中国人的悲哀——魔鬼横行,汉奸当道。。。。

Not only is this the dumpster diver's bad luck, but Chinese’ sorrow—the devils run wild and the traitor blocks the exit

My Head Lays Flat

打110比发这帖实际些。

Calling 911 would have been a bit more practical than posting this

Kill The Ni**ers

外国人暴打中国人不是新闻!反过来中国人打外国人就是违法事件!打110有用吗?

Foreigners beating up Chinese isn't news! On the contrary, Chinese beating foreigners is against the law! Would calling 911 made a difference?

Zhou Xiaodong

外国狗再欺侮中国人,中国人一定要一起上,给我猛劲打!

Again foreign dogs are bullying Chinese, Chinese must uprise together, strike them hard!

New Mr. Goodytwoshoes (新好好先生)

中国人是。。。。。。{看客}。。。。。

Chinese are……{spectators}…..

My Head Lays Flat

1.你让人盗窃后报110也许也没用,但你还是会打这个电话。
2.外国人也是可以打的,赔钱罢了。

1. It's useless to call 911 after someone gets robbed, but you still make the call.
2. Let the foreigners attack, then sue them for all they've got.

alanliu168

TMD,我上去就是两砖头,比打这电话更实际些。

Shit, I'd go over swinging, a bit more practical than making that call.

scxw028

上切就是5757124

That bit above, shameless enough to die

Love In The Outer Milky Way

我遇到后一定打死他丫的….
非常严重鄙视那个发笑的妇女…严重鄙视观看而不上前报仇的楼主.

After seeing that, guaranteed I'd beat them to death….
I seriously despise that laughing woman…seriously despise the author, watching and not getting in there for revenge.

Guangdong Nutcase

为什么不打110?

Why didn't you call 911?

Widow: I Do Want You (寡人410)

楼主应该是在车上看见的。!!就算不方便下车也应该打110的啊,。~~~~

The author probably saw this from the bus.!! Even if it wasn't convenient to get off the bus you still could have called the cops,.~~~~

Shell-picking Mermaid

对呀,我就觉得韩国人的爱国精神值得我们中国人学习!和他们这方面比起来我们中国人差距太大了!要不在国外人家为什么说中国人一个人是条龙,一群人是条虫呢!就是不团结!看不的别人比自己好是中国很多人的普遍心态!少了应该要有的精神!

Yeah, I think us Chinese oughta learn from Koreans’ patriotism! Us Chinese don't even compare in comparison to them! Otherwise why else would people overseas say that one Chinese is a dragon, but a group of Chinese is a worm?! That's to say, we're not in solidarity! Many people in China can't see the ways other people are are better than themselves! We lack the spirit we should have.

Man-made Diamond

经过鉴定:楼主是个爱国愤青,来这里妖言惑众!
坐公交车经过肯定就不知道打人详情啦,你怎么知道被打的是拾荒者?难道你认识他?还有哈哈大笑的女人你是怎么看出她是幸灾乐祸的?
假如我经过,我的判断是,被打的人是劫匪,哈哈大笑女人是被抢劫的受害者,打人的外国人可能是见义勇为。

In my estimation, the author is a hotblooded patriotic youth, here to spread lies and work people up!
From the bus you have no way of knowing the details of the beating. How do you know it was a dumpster diver being beaten? Like, do you know him? As for the laughing woman, how do you know she was getting kicks out of it?
If it was me passing by, my guess would be that the person being beaten was a robber, and the laughing woman was the robbery victim. Foreigners hitting people might just be out of seeing something wrong and stepping in to help.

My Head Lays Flat

经过,见到个好象是汉奸。

What you seen in passing was probably a traitor.

Man-made Diamond

哈哈,强烈支持楼上的说法!
我最怕跟‘爱国份子’同流合污了!
能被‘爱国份子’认为是‘汉奸’,是我的荣幸啊!

Haha! Strong support the [Shell-picking Mermaid]'s thoughts!
What I fear most is being roped in with evil ‘nationalists'!
To be called a ‘traitor’ by a ‘nationalist’, would be my honor!

My Head Lays Flat

我说好象,也没说是谁,
你自认是‘汉奸’。
你自个荣兴个够好了。

I said probably, and I didn't say who,
You yourself thought he was a ‘traitor’.
Whatever makes you happy.

Man-made Diamond

我考!
中了扁脑袋圈套!
晕死!

Damn!
Caught in Flathead's trap!
Gimme a break!

Got Another Better Lover

外宾哦,当扁要扁,及时向爱国愤青通报就行。不过俺不知楼主当找谁好~~~

Foreign guests, flat heads or not, report to the nationalistic angry youth ASAP or else. But then, I don't know who the author should be out to get more~~~

Take It Easy (晃晃悠悠吧)

垃圾

Rubbish

Man-made Diamond

拦住,不给路过,说清楚谁是汉奸先!

You won't get off that easily. Say clearly who the traitor is first!

15-10

这还用讲明白谁是汉奸?有良知的中国人都知道谁是汉奸啦!!!

Does it really need to be said who the traitor was? Any Chinese with a conscience would know!!!

Loneliest23

该死,免费的110都不打

Damn, 911 is free and you still didn't call

Poplar Yang

悲哀呀!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man-made Diamond

有良知的人是在说我吗?那我就告诉你,是非善恶的标准,是建立在客观公正的态度上的,好人坏人与爱不爱国无关。凡事总以爱不爱国来划分的,那是叫愤青,是一群邪恶卑鄙的人,是缺乏良知的中国人,懂吗!

The person with conscience, are you talking about me? Well then let me tell you, this is about more than just right or wrong, it's an attitude based on objectivity and fairness. Whether someone is good or bad has nothing to do with whether or not they love their country. People who see everything in terms of loving the state or not, they are called angry youth, a pack of depraved and despicable people; Chinese lacking conscience. Got it?

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

认为凡是中国的东西都应该否定的
那不叫愤青叫什么
这群人是否邪恶卑鄙
我到不如你敢如此武断和信口开河

Feeling everything about China is negative
If that's not called angry youth, then what is it?
‘This pack of people are depraved and despicable'?
I don't even know how you could run off at the mouth so arbitrarily like that

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

动不动说别人邪恶卑鄙的人
九成都很无耻

The kind of person who like to say others are depraved and despicable
Ninety percent of them have no shame

yrsh

真的?不相信。我看到了一定揍鬼佬

Really? I don't believe it. If I saw it I'd rip into those gwailos.

merry0408

向中国投降的鬼还有脸在这里叫,永远也是中国的阶下囚

These devils surrendered to China, how dare they show their faces here. They'll be China's prisoners forever.

Man-made Diamond

你说的也没有错,但是我也从来不会‘动不动说别人邪恶卑鄙’,假如我骂他邪恶卑鄙,那么一定有我的理由的,也就是说,他一定是个邪恶卑鄙的人我才这样骂他,懂吗!
比喻愤青叫人爱国就是卑鄙的行为,为什么?‘己所不欲,勿施于人’,而‘爱国’却是一件自己不愿意做而希望别人去做的事情。‘爱国’意味要付出自己的利益,付出多大呢?按照爱国愤青们的要求,那是要付出自己一切的一切,包括生命,你说说你自己愿意吗?再说,人家爱国了、付出了,那么谁是受益者呢?谁在别人的‘爱国’行为中获益呢?
你‘爱国’,那是你的权利,你愿意的事情,我无话可说,也不做任何评论,但是假如你叫别人去‘爱国’,那你就是不算邪恶卑鄙,至少也是缺德的!
另外,拜托你换个好听点的马甲来辩论好吗,你这个ID的每一个词都真让人恶心!

What you said is right, but I've never been a fan of calling others depraved and despicable. Say I do, then I surely have my reasons. To put it another way, he would have to be a depraved and despicable person for me to say something like that. Get it?
In comparison, angry youth calling for peolpe to love their country is plain-out despicable behavior. Why? ‘Don't do to others as you wouldn't have them do unto you'; ‘loving the country’ is something you yourself are not willing to do, yet hope others will. ‘Loving the country’ implies one giving up their own interests, but how big a payout? According to the nationalist angry youth's demands, one must give one's all, including their life. You tell me—are you willing? Say people love their country, and give their all. Then who would benefit? Who benefits from other peoples’ ‘country love’ behavior?
You love your country; that's your right, something you're willing to do; nothing I can say about that or any comment to make. But say you tell others to love their country; if that doesn't count as depraved and despicable, it at least counts as mean!
On top of that, please switch to a better-sounding nickname when debating. Every character in this ID of yours is disgusting!

Gentlewoman Goes Crazy

恩 支持人造金刚石.是非善恶的标准,是建立在客观公正的态度上的

Uh-huh. I support Man-made Diamond. This is about more than just right or wrong, It is an attitude based on objectivity and fairness.

Man-made Diamond

有美女支持!精神大振!
嘿嘿!

Got a pretty girl's support! I feel so inspired!
Heh heh!

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

  1.废话,谁骂人的时候会认为自己没有理由?
  2.你的档次还没到能付出的时候,所以只想着如何占便宜。
  3.同理,你爱做汉奸可以做个够,你又为何见不得别人爱国?你说话真矛盾。
  4.人造金刚石就很垃圾,不比碎玻璃值多少钱。以假石当宝之人,恶心得来还很没档次。

1. Nonsense. Does anyone actually think they have no reason to curse other people while they're cursing?
2. You haven't had your chance to ‘give your all’ yet, so you're just thinking about how to get out of it.
3. With the same line of thinking, if you love being the traitor, you can, but why can't others love their country? What you've said is contradictory.
4. Man-made Diamond is crap. Not worth much more than broken glass. People who pass fake stones off as jewels are disgusting and tasteless.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre 1

波大没脑,这世上不存在客观公正的态度,不同的立场有着不同的是非善恶的标准。

Big Tits No Brains, an objective and just posture doesn't exist in this world. Different positions have different standards of right and wrong.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

叫我换马甲?同理?你人长得那么恶心我能否让你回回炉呀?

You want me to change my nickname? What's your reasoning? You, you look so disgusting, can I put you back in the womb you came from?

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

长那么大没见过几个美女吧?
嘿嘿!

So old and never seen a pretty girl before?
Heh Heh!

Man-made Diamond

你才是没有脑!
我作为一个普通的国民,没有任何特权的人,我的立场不知道能不能反映大多数和我类似的国民的立场呢?

You're the one with no brains!
As a common citizen, someone with no special privilege, I don't know, doesn't my stance reflect the stances of most citizens similar to me?

Man-made Diamond

真不愧是愤青,说话也是语无伦次的。
你说我不够档次,我不反对,‘国’是什么人爱的?没有达到‘国家利益’的主人,跟人家学爱什么‘国’?
假如你‘爱国’,我不会反对,我最多当一个看客而已,就象我在看热闹看别人自杀,但是我决不会劝说、欺骗、教唆、引诱别人去自杀,这是我的道德底线!

Those angry youth have no shame, and what they say is incoherent.
You say I don't have enough taste, I don't object. What kind of person loves a ‘nation'? Without a master of ‘national interest’, what ‘nation’ is there for people to learn to love? Say you ‘love the nation’, I won't object. At most I'll be an observer and nothing more, just like watching a suicide. But I absolutely will not persuade, cheat, instigate or entice someone to kill themselves. This is my moral bottom line!

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

只要你懂得一些基本常识,你就应该懂得,大多数人确实是愚昧的,不愚昧的只有少数人,既然你将自己往多数人那边放,我可以很肯定地判断你很愚昧,你没有脑!

If you have any basic common sense at all, you should understand that most people are fools, and those not fools are the minority. Since you put yourself among the majority, I can say with conviction that you're quite the fool; you have no brain!

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

由上面的结论你没脑推出你思维一定很混乱,所以你听什么道理都会觉得人家语无伦次.
另外,假如你想做‘汉奸’,我没必要反对,反正你成事不足败事有余.

Following through with the above conclusion, brainless you and the thoughts you put out must be quite confused, that's why when you hear any reasoning you think people are incoherent.
That said, say you wanted to be a ‘traitor’. Nor do I have any need to object. In any case, your failures outnumber your successes.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

我们知道,一个档次很低的人,他的道德底线也会很低,往往一些蝇头小利的诱惑,足以让他放弃所谓道德.

We know that someone with low taste's moral bottom line will also be quite low. Sometimes the temptation of petty profits are enough to make give abandon his so-called morality.

Don't Be A Punk

同志们,你们能不能再吵得厉害一点呢?

Comrades, could you argue just a little bit louder?

BensonM

MD ~~就算是抢劫犯也用不着洋鬼子执法吧~~

Hell ~~even if it was a robber there's no need for foreign devils to enforce the law~~

langoyy

有图吗?传张上来给大家睇下。

Any photos? Upload some and let everyone see.

Man-made Diamond

什么是愚昧?就是缺乏独立的思维能力,缺乏是非的判断力的人。
在正常情况下,精英和愚昧的人都是少数,大多数都是普通人,假如一个国度,他的多数国民都是愚昧的,那就说明那个国家的教育出了问题,造成它的国民出于未开化状态。
假如说中国的国民大多被教育成是愚民,宣传干部的功劳相信是最大的。

Just what is a fool? It's someone lacking the ability of independent though, lacking a sense of right or wrong.
Under normal circumstances, both outstanding and foolish types are in the minority, most people are common. Say there was a country, and the majority of its citizens were fools, that would suggest that this country's education has problems, making barbarians of its people.
Say the majority of China's citizens had been turned into fools by its education, Propaganda Cadre's contribution would undoubtedly have been the greatest.

Man-made Diamond

果然是宣传干部,断章取义的功夫可不简单!不值一驳!

For sure it would be Propaganda Cadre. The skill involved in quoting things out of context is not simple! This is unrefutable!

Man-made Diamond

谁说洋人是执法者呢?
假如你路见抢劫,帮忙捉贼,没有人会把你看成是执法者吧?

Who said the foreigners were enforcing the law?
Say you walked by a robbery and helped catched the thief; nobody would see that as you enforcing the law?

yangwei1983

谁也不敢苟同。

Nobody would agree without thinking it through first.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

人不骂我,我不骂人,俺很五讲四美的。

Nobody's swearing at me, and I'm not swearing at anybody. I'm just abiding by rules of common courtesy.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

知耻者勇也,你也别再丢人现眼了。

Those who know shame are brave in their own way, you don't need to make anyone else lose face.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

抱歉哈,俺只想打击那金刚石,其实俺也喑恋淑女很久了。
嘿嘿,你那么叼,俺很怕你,俺把淑女让给你总行了吧。

I apologize, I only want to get that Diamond. I've actually had a crush on Gentlewoman for a long time.
Heh heh, you're so bad, I'm so scared, I'll hand Gentlewoman over to you if it comes to it.

Man-made Diamond

哈哈,我早就象骂人啦,就是怕给封ID,划不来啊,假如版主能特赦,在本贴骂人不追究,我保证把吵架升级,骂某人是傻B。

Ha ha, I've been a badmouther since early on, I'm just afraid they'll block my user ID. Just get it over with. But say the webmaster lets people get away with cursing in here, I promise to kick the fighting up a notch, call somebody a stupid c***.

Man-made Diamond

这个游击队还算是个比较文明的愤青,值得表扬一下。不过愤青总是愤青,说话还是臭的很!

This Guerrilla is actually a pretty civilized angry youth, worth praising a bit. Although angry youth will be angry youth; what they say will always stink!

Guerrilla Man-made Diamond

  1.你认为我是臭愤青就臭愤青吧,你是香汉奸吗?
  2.理说不过想骂尽管骂,别憋着,憋多了就真憋成傻B了。
  3.我也很喜欢骂人的,比讲道理省事多了。

1. If you think I'm a stinking angry youth, then a stinking angry youth I will be. And you're a fragrant traitor?
2. Making an argument but feel like cursing? Don't hold back; hold back too much and you'll really be stopping yourself from becoming a stupid c***.

Little Handsome

某日我在岗顶电脑城附近的天桥碰上两黑鬼,一看就是能混的,说不定是传说中的黑人贩毒网成员,两人并排上楼梯把整条路都堵住了,走得又很慢,我想都没想把他们扒开就往前钻,钻过去回头看了一眼,眼睛瞪得老大的瞅着我。真想不通,难道中国人这么好欺负可以让老外这么不尊重么 ?我也狠狠瞪了他们一眼头也没回的走的。

One day I was near the Gangding Computer City overpass and bumped into two ni**ers. Just one look would put you off. For all I knew they were members of the legendary Black drug selling web. The two of them walked up the stairs side-by-side, blocking the whole way. And they walked slowly. Without thinking I shoved them aside and pushed ahead. I looked back and saw the bigger guy glaring at me. I just don't get it. Are Chinese so easy to bully that leads laowais to disrespect them? I glared back at them and walked off.

Man-made Diamond

楼上的,不用那么自卑,人家黑人也没有欺负你啊,只不过是走得慢点而已吗,把路堵了,那是跟他们的生活习惯或者说素质有关系。在香港,搭乘自动扶梯时,不赶时间的会站在一边,留出一个空间给赶时间的人通过,假如你在香港不这样做,人家也会说你没有素质的!

To the commenter above, no need to be so down on yourself. Those blacks didn't bully you. They just walked slowly and blocked the way. That's just a matter of their life habits or upbringing. In Hong Kong, riding the escalator, those not in a hurry stand off to one side, leaving a space for those in a rush. If you go to Hong Kong and don't do like this, people would say you had no upbringing too!

Man-made Diamond

宣传干部:说你是傻B,其实不算骂你,只是实事求是而已。

Propaganda Cadre: To say you're a stupid c*** doesn't actually count as insulting you, just being realistic and nothing more.

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

人造金刚石: 你大脑进屎,小脑缺陷,说你傻比,你还谦虚~!

Man-made Diamond: you have defective shit for brains, you stupid c***. And you're still modest~!

Guerrilla Propaganda Cadre1

人造金刚石这傻B锤子长在脑壳上,真奇怪世博会怎么没喊你去展览!?

Man-made Diamond this stupid c*** has a hammer growing in his skull. So strange that the world Expo still hasn't called you to go on display!?

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  • Mov Kembo

    Basically there are the same morons in Canada and the USA, except we don’t throw firebombs into refugee hostels in Canada, or commit mass rape (But Europe nonetheless remains a tolerant place in some respects) The really sad thing about China, is that these types of ‘stories’ are

    1) believed by the vast majority of the population because the lovely government created a system in which all media news is propaganda and the people know this for the most part, so they rather trust word of mouth.

    2) often some very smart people are very focused on their particular skill and so don’t have the broad frame of reference to be able to discern between made up stories (as you can see some of the people leaving comments are able to do). But really not that different from the US!

    3) “bbs” comments get reported as ‘news’ and as an accurate measure of the mood of the people, rather than the morons with no lives they are who sit at home in chat rooms every night.

    4) foreign reports are often limited in their access to real news, and also are often somewhat lazy and often don’t speak Chinese very well so are too reliant on their Chinese assistants, who of course relish the idea of being able to publish these types of stories as either they are slightly patriotic themselves or the opposite. Or they just take what they find in a chatroom and call it news. A good journalist is a rare find these days, really!

    All that said, anyone living in China the past decade or so, like myself, would agree that the smell of anti-foreigner sentiment is much more palpable than a decade ago, fostered in part by Hu and his evil henchmen, but just generally because you have got a simmering society which despite its obvious improvements, is still very imbalanced, but everyone feels less insecure about being in a messed up country now that they have paved roads and cell phone service. As the comments above state for me, Chinese don’t get along with each other so easily! So why not, as most of the disgruntled developing world does, blame the ’round eye’ barbarian. And maybe rightly so. We did after all sell them tons and tons of opium a century ago, and recovery from drug addiction and the feelings of low self-esteem and worthlessnes don’t go away overnight, as any drug addiction counsellor will tell you! Question is though, how did all those junkies get hooked on the stuff to begin with? As white folk weren’t exactly partying with Chinese back then. Hmmmm, the thing about Chinese that does keep them down, and people often will back this up, is they don’t help each other very often. I saw this on too many occasions to recount here. And as you can see from the comments above, there are some who also hate black people too! All that said, there are tons and tons of really nice people in China. And women who like black guys too(never met a Chinese man who does in ten years there). So quit panic mongering buddy!

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